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The U.K. Government Is Very Close To Eroding Encryption Worldwide (www.eff.org)
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[–] 3 points 3 years ago

Can't you guys tell your MPs to get that shit out of here?

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    [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oh wow, the great UK really seems to love to show the world how advanced they are. Decrypt this then 🙄

    Password is only 8 characters.

    -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

    jA0ECQMIg4RgH82c4/j+0sC6ASlYlE5UsjX2pJ7EL+c/XvjBdn2sfeaWyVZQenMW h+eMDp4vCSbhvVHpzVjwo0mJVKyLnINzjelRVQH0mPBuvs8wsGPitJ04xkixBrEI j/BDvunCqQHKh2rDSbqubuA64+74Zg2FqGsAgnTrxfK/78AFPfL1jM4GODxLt5IT duxVd06lE/zqJmhBL0uInovdKRsOjDoueHJBeXOSFpfYCoUcQsNkcOCZ7XiaaQus CUKVs1nCHWQZtjlRTxUzBRjkNFFVumXY+XI2S35ER8FveB6LdL0bqWCsJxSVUCMb +G3v5ckD/dvxVCrjxfeA4Xlvvk5ivZwsmkaWLz0KUl8tooxD3LBmbU3OTZ27sRxW SgTwGewFgxDTAlcbKaW46WI/Stbs3knYc2rQbMpu/DHqjz2GsYBENXOZEMYCnNtB tgRj6I5IqPieP2ZHUBXu8/ijL6Kl6UxKRtit7m0kttCfFWY8a1yhRfXGn57ZByxi Tj8jFHypznwgpSTE =cl6h -----END PGP MESSAGE-----

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Oi M8 do you have a loicense for that Encryption? No? Well then, pay the foine or be branded a terrurist within the Five Eyes. /s

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    how can you even prove that it’s something encrypted and not random text?

    I’m not sure how you can “ban encryption” lol

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    The law laws will be written so that they don't need to prove it. The suspicion will be enough, and innocent people will be punished for transmitting or storing unintelligible data.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Just two years ago the politicians fearmongered that quantum computers will break every encryption without delay. This bill speaks quite different story.

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    [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Apple has said they’ll pull out of UK if required. I won’t use any software that abides.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Apple are operating in China by caving in to the government. I don't think they'll be more radical with the UK.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I might be cynical af but I believe China is a market they can't ignore, but the UK, well...they can afford to send a message there. With some quick google-fu it looks like Apple sells more iPhones about every 8 days than it sells in the UK in a year. That's comparing 2023 numbers for China to 2019 numbers in the UK for the record, I'm too lazy to look past the first few links really, and doubt that math would change enough to ruin the point.

    They also wouldn't pull out of the UK, they would likely just revert to SMS there in the messages app rather than give the UK a back door into their encryption.

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    • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Is there anything we can do about it?

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    • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Or we could all just vote for people that aren’t corrupt… or at least, yet!

    If you don’t know who isn’t corrupt, vote for independents that understand technology. I know it’ll never happen so things will continue to go downhill but gees, what do governments have to do to get people to wake up? 🤬

    Hell, i’ll be happy if people just stopped believing ‘for the sack of the children’ crap and realise its all about controlling the population! 🙄🤦‍♂️

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    • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Tell me that pushing this sort of 1984 inspired stuff wasn't one of the reasons for Brexit.

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    • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    NWO is happening before our very eyes, guys

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    • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Worldwide? No they aren't. This is clickbait.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    If they force messengers to implement backdoors into the protocol, I doubt they will limit it to UK users. Also, conversations with UK users won't be private anymore even if the other party is from another country.

    Client-side scanning might not be enforced for other accounts but when the infrastructure is there other governments will want to use it, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    That definitely won't happen. Full E2EE apps like Signal, iMessage, and WhatsApp aren't going to risk the worldwide backlash that would come with implementing backdoor access. The UK market isn't that big and definitely not worth it, they'd pull out of the UK entirely first.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I hope they will. My guess is that a nonprofit like Signal will pull out. They have nothing to gain and a reputation to lose. The others will probably comply by implementing some form of client-side scanning.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I wonder if it will be analogous to the situation in China. Is an iMessage conversation safe if one party is based in China and their data is stored in data centers there?

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    • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    @igalmarino @privacy it won't erode encryption worldwide - any more than China did. They'll just pull out of the UK

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    In a selfish way... I'd like for the UK to do this and for it to go horribly horribly wrong for them. Maybe that would finally get the US reps to get their heads out of their butts so l don't have to keep signing petitions and writing essays about why weakening encryption is a horrible idea.

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