I just wished they were more relevant in german politics.
It's the typical dilemma. Vote for a party you know won't get enough votes to do something or vote for the least bad of the established parties.
I just wished they were more relevant in german politics.
It's the typical dilemma. Vote for a party you know won't get enough votes to do something or vote for the least bad of the established parties.
Yeah ... No.
I'm generally not a fan of party politics (though I realize you often have to bite the bullet on voting). But the pirate party here (Germany) is a really problematic bunch some of them thinking freedom means free markets some of them thinking free speech means they should be able to say hateful Nazi shit ... Really not a party I want to vote for, even in a pinch.
free speech
In the context of an intense commitment to an open internet I’d honestly need to know a bit more about what this means in my own country’s pirate party. “Free speech” is often just a disingenuous shield when bigots want to be be bigots without social consequences.
“Free speech” is often just a disingenuous shield when bigots want to be be bigots without social consequences.
While this is often true, it also often applies to many people who have things to say that their government don't want them to.
They lack a bit on all other agendas, like education, healthcare etc
They don't have to cover everything. Pirate Parties often ally with other parties that cover other specific problems, e.g. Piratenpartij & De Groenen ("Pirate Party" and "The Greens" alliance) in Netherlands, and they work well together.
They absolutely have to cover everything. The idea of voting a politician into office knowing they aren't competent in all aspects of their job is wild to me.
Am I going to vote for an MP that has no knowledge of policies on healthcare, welfare, etc? Of course not, that would be deeply irresponsible.
This might be OK depending on your location and the government system in place. Voting for a single person that has to answer all questions sounds like UK or US to me.
Take a look at the Finnish or the Dutch parliament. 7, 8, 16 parties there? Independent (no-party) politicians too. Each one of them is free to represent people with specific needs and only focus on that.
Also keep in mind that some questions like "healthcare" and "welfare" may be less relevant too. It can be pretty much resolved (you can always promise to "increase doctors' wages by 30%!"). More specific issues remain.
In ranked choice voting systems, single issue parties have a meaningful purpose, they don't need a full platform covering every topic of running a country, they just need to show the major party that gets their preference flow that people support their cause and they need to take note of where those votes came from
I've been voting pirate party for years now, though thankfully I am in a country with ranked choice / preference voting so I'm not damaging democracy by voting for a third party, in fact I believe I'm actively helping democracy by using the tools given to me.
In Australia they are now part of the Fusion Party, which combines pro-science, pro-choice, pro-environment and secular minor parties.
Sadly the one in my country no longer exists 😞
I love piracy like I love electricity - it makes my life easier, and I will extoll the virtues when asked. It doesn't rise to a core political belief for me, though.
As Extra in Exile once said:
"Finally, a party for us YouTubers"
Go to this video at the 5:25 mark if you don't believe me.
Yeah I like democracy better tho
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