ICE is becoming a paramilitary organization, Trump's personal army. It isn't really fulfilling its supposed role for which it was created in the first place.
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Don't even need to do that, their websites with recruitment information has such poor security that leaks happen all the time. Perhaps unsurprisingly, 2/3 of the Oath Keepers are former military and/or law enforcement officers. The leak obtained by DDOSecrets included membership ID, membership type, name, physical and email address, and join date.
Inside The Pro-Trump Militant Group The Oath Keepers - The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/right-wing-militias-civil-war/616473/
The database leak included such granular detail that economists have been able to study their firm-like behaviours, including running discount codes for memberships and promises of pre-order welcome packages that are never fulfilled.
Selling Violent Extremism - https://www.ucigcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/2024_wp10_klinenberg_v2-FINAL.pdf
This country is going to need a new level of cult deprogramming to get anywhere. I won't see it in my lifetime.
Maybe this time we hang all of the confederates and not let any live so this shit doesnt happen again?
Agreed. As seen with my nation and Germany, the Confederates and Nazis went on to raise Klanners and Stormfronters. ICE should be trialed and executed as a class, else they will escape the justice that they deserve. It isn't kind, but necessary.
They chose to embrace evil, and should die because of the sins they have earned.
Apparently, the Nuremberg trials executed less than 210 Nazis. Considering how many Jews and other peoples have been slaughtered, that is a bullshit result. Trial by individual isn't sufficient for institutionalized war crimes.
Absolutely. There is a movie about a housekeeper during the holocaust who hid Jews in the basement of the commander's house she worked in. When he eventually found out, she bargained with him, said she would be his mistress if he would say nothing and let them live.
After the war, when the dust settled, the commander was turned away by his wife and children for sheltering the Jews, and it was the Jews themselves he had allowed to live who took him in.
There were many people living everyday lives that had drank the coolaid and saw the extermination of the Jews as absolutely necessary and considered anyone who disagreed a traitor. Those people went on to raise children and teach them that sick way of thinking.
Honestly, it sucks that execution of ICE as a class has to be considered: it isn't unlike the cruelty they inflict on people who didn't deserve to be abused nor killed.
That is where the distinction lies: deservedness.
Advocating for almost the same thing is icky. I cannot be said to be innocent, for supporting this method to end the madness. 😞
Abolishing paramilitaries in all forms should be a baseline Democratic position. It ain't the 1770s anymore.
I really don't understand how cons think liberals "ruined" anything. This country could be very great if the cons would stop trying to make everyone's lives miserable by constantly poking their nose where it doesn't belong.
"Things would be better if it weren't for [group], they're the problem, not the rich." It's a lie as old as civilization and conservatives always fall for it.
Hey USA. How's that 2nd Amendment working for you?
I'm still waiting for the trial, where I've agents were gunned down for self defense.
and there will be a trial regarding the right to defend yourself from masked unidentified gangs kidnapping people.
if the decision goes against fascist ideals, then the Supreme court will intervene. and the 2A nuts will suck fash cock and celebrate that it's bad to raise against a tryranic government.
"🎶Land of the free, home of the brave🎵"
Feeling brave and free enough to stop a rapist, racist, paedo nazi from overtaking your country yet?
Or are you going to carry on waiting for someone else to do something?
Juvenile. Pissed off that someone might hold them accountable. Not much these people hate more than oversight and someone getting in the way of their violence.
ICE is a terrorist organization, but if they aren't going to abolish it then we need to abolish ICE members. One by one by one.
A mid-size nuclear powerplant is required to drive the searchlight that'd enable this level of projection.
How dare liberals encourage education and renewable energy! And infrastructure and foreign trade! And civil liberties and reasonable prices!
“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.”
It's agents also need to be arrested, and put on a trial.
These guys are total pussies. Either shoot them or unmask them. They are already on camera so swarm them and pull down a few masks. Once you ID a few of them publicly, the rest will drop like flies.
Could turn facial recognition back on them...
And lose your jobs, your homes, and your freedom in the process as you get prosecuted for assaulting federal agents where the authorities have an incentive to make an example out of you to deter future incidents.
I'm not expecting the world to change from holding hands and singing hymns, but insulting people (who already started confronting them instead of just pretending not to see) for not sacrificing more than I'd have to seems rather narrow-minded to me.
He must have left his fedora at home.
Ah yes, the proud Patriots protecting you from... your Doordash delivery. Such bravery!
Bigotry and lack of decency ruined the country but it was already ruined it was built on blood repe and kidnapping and forced labor
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