Not to get too serious, given the topic and the community I'm in, but...
There's a saying along the lines of "You can't reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into." And the overwhelming majority of the time, it's completely true.
Ridiculous as it sounds, there are large numbers of people out there who believe that being gay is a choice. These people legitimately feel like any recognition and representation of homosexuality risks turning people gay.
You can spend all the time you want asking them when they chose to be straight and logically explaining things to them, it almost certainly will not matter.
It's projection. It never made sense to me until I realized it's all projection. They think gay people are going door to door exactly like they do.
They go door to door saying "Have you found Christianity? I've chosen to be Christian and I think it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be Christian, I think you should raise your children to be Christian, I think we should have a Christian society."
So they just assume everyone else is going door to door "Have you found gayness? I've chosen to be gay and I think it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be gay, I think you should raise your children to be gay, I think we should have a gay society."
Which to us is as ridiculous as going door to door "Have you found left handedness? I've chosen to be left handed and I think it's a great way of life. I think you should choose to be left handed, I think you should raise your children to be left handed, I think we should have a left handed society."
Please remember, they are not there to convince you of their faith! They are there to be rejected. They sent out 18yos with a up until that point unknown other 18yo person to a far away place, then tell each other them that they should look after each other. So now they effectively spy on each other and know their only "friend" in that situation is expecting them to behave like a good elder. Then they were told that the outside world is rejecting god as it was corrupted by the devil and now they are running around and approaching random houses and bother the people living there, which will obviously mostly reject them.
This is fucking brainwashing.
Look up the BITE model...
Behavior: imagine living with only 1 person that you are supposed to spent your whole day with and that person spies on you and you know it.
Information: the mission is supposed to prove that the outside world rejects them
Thought: you are supposed to focus on the mission and god alone.
Emotion: fear based indoctrination by being told that the world rejects them and their only support is a member of the organization.
True, I’ve never had a gay guy wake me up too damned early on a Saturday to talk about sucking dick. But damn Christian’s keep asking me if I found Jesus. Damn it fuckers just admit you lost at hide n seek already!
Mormons are so funny, I legit feel bad for all the people who have been traumatized by these weirdos, but like these children are called "elders."
They have all these weird rules where premarital sex is totally not permissible, but they be fucking, and then be like "its not sex with a condom on" or of course soaking. Like straight faced "I'm saving myself for marriage," and I'm like "we've had sex 6 times this week, Genevieve."
I was at a party in college and this Mormon dude who always did these awkward, overly complicated jive handshakes that felt really violating, was sitting outside upset and depressed holding a half-empty beer. He was like "its all over I've sacrificed everything I believe in, for what? So I can drink a beer at a party??" It was one beer he wasn't even finished with it. Its like relax dude, I'm like 19 and spiraling into alcoholism I think you'll be okay this one time.
Ive heard so many horror stories, but I've only had good and very funny experiences with Mormons. And none of this even gets into the magic underwear or like you get your own planet in the afterlife.
They'd defend themselves by saying you can just turn them away, while completely ignoring that they can choose to not consume media with queer people in it. And when they whine that the problem is that it's in too much stuff now and they can't avoid it, they're once again trying to control what's in media and they've gone full circle.
The only way Christian’s know they’re doing good is when they’re being persecuted. So they do things to create conflict, and they get confirmation bias.
One day I was headed to my car to go somewhere. A zealot intercepted me and wanted to proselytize to me. I told him thank you but no thank you. He was all like "But have you heard about Jesus Christ?" I said that I was raised a Christian and knew all about it, but I reject it. He still was trying to argue with me so I finally just said "Have a nice day" and walked away as he was still trying to reconvert me. Some of them simply can't believe you know what they are about but don't buy into it.
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