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[–] 173 points 2 years ago (1 child)

If my 3D printer has a problem, it's not working properly.

When my 2D printer throws a fit, it's because it's doing its job of being a vicious piece of shit perfectly.

Important difference.

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  • [–] 109 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The thing is, we definitely could have 100% reliable printers with good reparabilty, but capitalism gotta capitalism

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just get a color laser printer, learn how to refill toner carts and buy or flash the chips. Even a monkey can do that! /s

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  • [–] 85 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    we have nailed 2D printers. enshittification in the name of profits ruined them. i recommed epson eco-tank printers by the way. no subscription and one 10€ bottle lasts for hundreds of pages.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Some 3D printer companies tried enshittifying, like DaVinci. Fortunately, they got out maneuvered by companies making printers that were almost cheap garbage, but just good enough, like Creality.

    A lot of that has to do with open sourcing the designs, and that it doesn't take a major research arm to design a 3d printer. Getting a 2d printer to align ink to 300dpi is pretty difficult, and even more so with color. 300dpi isn't even that impressive. That industry is tied up in patents and trade secrets, and it's difficult for a new competitor to emerge. Conversely, I know people who designed top notch 3d printers out of their personal workshop.

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    [–] 62 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's funny because 3d printers are cheaper to purchase, maintain, and supply for

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah, but try printing out your kid's book report on one.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    With how much more reliable and easy to use 3d printers are, I'm saying we need to move on to 4d printers

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Actually, the problem isn't that we haven't nailed 2D printers. The problem is we have. Which is why they have to do artificial bullshit like the LOW CYAN thing to make money selling you ink that you do not actually need.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Yeah. If you get a high-end kyocera or other office printer, that bad boy will print 30k pages a year without complaint. It will cost you $800-$15,000 but it wont make your life hell.

    If you spend $79.95 on a hp inkjet, you curse yourself.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And I'm over here, with a laser printer, laughing at everyone's "printer not working" issues. Hasn't let me down ever and is a speed demon.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    And I'm over here, with a laser printer with 20 year old HP inkjet printer, laughing at everyone’s “printer not working” issues. Hasn’t let me down ever and is a speed demon. but the high-DPI setting takes 20 minutes per A4 page to create near-laser quality.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Laser printers are definitely the way to go, but still not 100% without problems. Every once in a while I get some bullshit messages about my magenta toner not being compatible, but unplugging it for a minute seems to fix it.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    The problem is we deliberately make everything wrong so that it breaks. You can't buy a good product once capitalism gets into full swing, because everything that justified its existence was a lie and the only thing that matters is money - not the world, not the people, just this fake paper bullshit that isn't really worth anything and is just a status symbol that allows you to buy more status symbols.

    When most people use the word removedry, this is the sort of thing they're describing, not gay people. The word was evolving in this direction before everyone decided to pull a "satanic panic" on it.

    edit: lmfao the word is autoremoved, case in point. why we doin so much censorship here? reddit is not a model to follow

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My 3D printer works better than my 2D printer

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    In my 10 years of being a High School Robotics teacher i find that my group has less problems with the 3d printers than the 2d printers.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Colour laser printers have been around for long enough that they're a decent value. If you buy cheap HP inkjet slop, don't blame capitalism when they try to wring you for more money

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    The irony is that making an Open Source 3D Printer is far more accessible and affordable than making an Open Source 2D printer.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I wonder how right-to-repair will change the printer market.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    No, 2d printer tech is fine. It's the ink scam cycle for them that are the problem. There's literally no functional reason they couldn't all use the exact same few cartridges. Capitalism ruins everything.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Capitalism RUINED the printer

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    we should have stopped making new printers after the HP LaserJet 4, it's all been downhill since then

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Resin printers are the laser printers (in a few cases, literally) of the 3D world.

    Filament are the inkjets, super likely for something to go horribly wrong because of a tiny miscalculation.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Let's add one more D, that'll fix all the reliability issues!"

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    cyan low sweet chariot

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Carmack, drop that Meta already, it's time for a 2,5D printer!

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