Stick to Void. Everything else will look slow. Haven't moved since I started using it.
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If you don't want Ubuntu, you can still have Debian. All the apt goodness without the Canonical drama.
Ever consider Gentoo?
I haven't honestly. Isn't that one that takes forever to install because it builds the packages as you install the system?
Forever, no! Sure, compiling Firefox with some flags on my slow system can take ahem, time but I can install Gentoo in couple of days.
Though, in all seriousness, Gentoo takes a notch higher than Arch and unlike Arch, which has many entry level distros based on it, Gentoo has comparatively lesser. It's fully usable but takes some initial time configuring and setting up the system exactly to the user's requirements. The package manager is portage, I think.
I read somewhere that chromeos is based on gentoo.
That said, Gentoo isn't what I would recommend to someone hooked on Xbps.
If you're on Celeron, then yes it should take forever.
Throw a decent quad core and you'll be done with a fully functional desktop in a day!
You're going to be impressed with NixOS. You might still hate it because of the learning curve, but it offers you the ability to have both stable and nightly packages in one system.
If you mess something up, you can just boot into the previous configuration.
I know, so cool. I am open to learning, but I am not sure I am in for that depth of education :)
Not a global opinion here as many hardcore linux users will stand by Arch or Mint, but I always have preferred Debian. It's what Ubuntu is based on, so it uses apt(itude), yet it's not prebloated Ubuntu and much more true to adaptation and unedited software than Ubuntu has become... But in the end it's more personal choice and taste, so usually requires a bunch of failed attempts to get one that fits, as every linux can basically do the same things, yet on some or other slightly different way... 😜
I just want to add that for Debian with a rolling, up-to-date experience, Siduction does that nicely.
Forgot to mention that, but indeed, Sid works pretty well...
Thanks, Sid hasn't been on my radar. Ill go have a look. I happen to have a ZFS box up in rsync.net running Debian, and it'd be nice to learn more about CLI in the deb world.
Just clarifying in case there's a mix-up: Siduction is a desktop distro based on Debian Sid, not exactly the same distro. It's my favorite take on Debian so far but honestly I always have something to grumble about in apt-world.
Gotcha. I looked at Seduction the bistro and I'm inclined to give it a trial alongside a few others.
I did kinda assume you meant Debian's Sid, tbh. Hadn't heard of Siduction as a Distro. Siduction being the actual long name of Debian Sid sounded very plausible. 😅
Apt and aptitude are both front-ends for apt-get (and related tools)
Debian is to the Rolling Stones as Arch is to the Backstreet Boys and Mint is to NSync.
No. Debian package update status is annoying. And I am on testing...on top of that, apt is decent but I don't see anything special about it.
APK/Alpine is great! And the Edge repos are well stocked.
Chimera Linux seems to be using even newer apktools than Alpine, not sure what the deal with that is. But that distro is still in early stages with limited repos for now.
Pacman/makepkg/Arch is great too, and an obvious consideration for your usage, curiously omitted from your post.
Ah Chimera. I've been looking at that the last two days. I am really tempted to give it a shot. My laptop is mostly for playing around these days. Are you running it?
I forgot about Arch. I ran Manjaro for a year and didn't have the best experience. 'Course I was pretty green on Linux then.
EndeavourOS is a better Arch experience. If you were to look back into it I would recommend it over Manjaro.
No unfortunately I haven't tried Chimera yet, but its design is close to my ideal distro. I'd especially love to see its package repos fill up, but the selection is tight as it stands.
I would recommend playing around with containers instead of doing a reinstall. Containers give a similar experience without so much work
LXC is killer. You can spin up containers that 'feel' exactly like a VM but with way less overhead.
Great suggestion. A few of the distro suggestions here are in the deep end of the Linux pool, so it's probably best to build them virtually to see how I want things setup.
apk isn't any more or less than using dpkg by itself, or opkg. As for what I use, I use Arch at home and Ubuntu on my virtual machines (because they're officially supported by my hosting provider). They work for me. I like them.
Thanks for the heads up. That is something I've taken into consideration. I am curious how long I'd last on musl.
on the flip side, Drew DeVault is perfectly happy with Alpine on both desktop and server
I’ve been considering Opensuse, but last time I used zypper it was painfully slow. Has it gotten any better?
No, I am using TW for years and despise its package manager slowness. Apart from that though, TW is great. Have void on my laptop as well, sadly rarely use it currently.
Alpine is great! Apk is super fast. The package selection isn't then best, but it's on-par with dnf and apt. My one gripe is musl/openrc issues, but you're already used to that if you use Void
Went with Arch and Fedora simply for the parallel downloading. I tried xbps , the only turn off for me was the fact that feature was missing otherwise void is best to stick with.
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