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[–] 269 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (165 children)

At least 22 dead and 60 wounded.

To all of you out there who want no gun control. This blood is on your hands. Screw you and your 2nd amendment "rights."

Edit: 18 dead, 13 wounded

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  • [–] 144 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (55 children)

    Still waiting for the good guy with a gun they keep repeating

    EDIT: OK everyone, yes he was the good guy with a gun. Thanks to everyone for pointing this out

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  • [–] 116 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Apparently, the shooter was a firearms instructor. Aka, good guy with a gun turned bad guy with a gun.

    This crap will never end until the tools they use to kill are off the streets.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Which is the key problem. Everyone is a "responsible gun owner" and "good guy with a gun"...... until sometimes they suddenly aren't anymore. At which point your protection is what was person able to keep under normal circumstances aka what they had in their possession on the moment they had a mental snap.

    Was it a semi-auto shoot as fast as your finger pulls rifle with potentially hundreds of rounds in quick swap magazines or do they have a manual action hunting rifle or shotgun with fixed magazine, that need to be manually reloaded.

    Do they have a pistol with again potentially hundreds of rounds of quick reload ammunition or don't or maybe a target pistol with fixed magazine.

    That is why places around the world have magazine and type restrictions, since they exactly know "checking backgrounds isn't fool proof and now amount of background checking helps again sudden newly emerging situation after the checks have been done".

    Sure that 5 round moose hunting rifle will absolutely wreck say those 5 people, but one can't exactly run amock shooting around endlessly with moose rifle. Damage limitation. 5 dead people is better situation, than 22 dead people. As cold calculating as that is.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Predicting a failure in background checks here allowing him to get a gun:

    Edit

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-maine-shooting-suspect-says-mental-health-deteriorated-rapidly-rcna122353

    "The weapon believed to have been used in the attack was a sniper rifle with .308 caliber bullets, and it was purchased legally this year, officials said."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lewiston-maine-shooting-robert-card-what-know-rcna122262

    "Maine court records show that a man named Robert Card who was born on the same date as the person of interest was charged with speeding in 2001 and 2002. No other criminal records were listed in the state's electronic court records system or in several other public records databases."

    But also:

    "It added that law enforcement said Card 'recently reported mental health issues to include hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, ME.'

    The bulletin said Card was reported to have been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks this summer and then released. NBC News has not been able to independently verify the bulletin's statements about Card's history."

    In previous incidents, people committed to mental health facilities didn't have it turn up on their background check unless it was ordered by a judge. That needs to change.

    I'm seeing varying reports that he was also convicted of domestic abuse, but this link shows no such charges.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Not very many people have argued that people who have actually made violent threats and been institutionalized should be buying guns.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    This guy was a firearms instructor. Literally a good guy with a gun turned into a bad guy with a gun.

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    Definitely not for Maine though. This guy was a military weapons instructor for the army. My cousin was at West Point with him this summer and he is the one who got him a psych eval. One day on the shooting range I guess he had a psychotic breakdown talking about the voices in his head and wanting to shoot up places. The shooter was absolutely pissed about having to get a psych eval. The shooter is still at large and it's terrifying especially because he might be going after my cousin.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Get rid of guns and you can stop this.

    It’s the most basic solution that even conservatives can understand.

    They seem to apply the following logic to everything else:

    Stop immigrants? Build wall

    Stop terrorists? Kill them

    Stop homeless? Bus them

    Stop poor? Tax cut

    Stop mass shootings? Ban guns

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok wait a minute. The conservatives are wrong on all 4 of those. So are you saying that logic would be wrong for banning guns also? Not sure which argument you are making here.

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    [–] 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Take a bow conservatives. The blood is on your hands.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I love how ppl who know nothing about guns are talking about how "it can't be full auto because $$$$"

    Shut the fuck up u fools ..

    U can buy a $20 auto sear online that makes any ar full auto. Yes its illegal. No one cares.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    this happened at a crowded bowling alley

    Lewiston, about 35 miles north of Portland, emerged as a major center for African immigration into Maine. The Somali population, which numbers in the thousands, has changed the demographics of the once overwhelmingly white mill city into one of the most diverse in northern New England.

    any indication that the crowd was any particular complexion?

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I haven’t read anything about it, so I can’t say for sure, but I work in the Lewiston area and I’ve heard both the bowling alley and bar to be more “local” oriented businesses.

    The Walmart distribution center is a weird one though, because it’s not really a store front.

    Whatever his motivations are, it breaks my heart to see it happen in our neck of the woods.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The shooter is still at large.

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