I care about them in that order. So if it doesn't have popup camera I don't care as much as if it doesn't have audio jack.

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[–] 58 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

No popup camera, but Samsung Xcover6 Pro might be your jam: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover6_pro-11600.php

6gb ram, 120hz display, Android 13, Snapdragon 778, SD slot, removeable battery, 3.5mm jack, USB 3.2 w/dex support.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Holy moly guacamole, there are so many features I wanted! I wonder what the biggest downside is aside from mid camera quality.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I read somewhere that the 6gb of ram is not capable of multitasking. So it is possible the bloat is taking a lot of the ram. My device has 8gb of ram, and 5 gb is in use, I don't use my phone too much.

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    I'm getting a Samsung for dev work because it's cheap, but I wouldn't have gotten it if I wasn't sure I could root it to remove the bloat.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I have the previous version. Going on 3-4 ears now. It is good. Great even, assuming your camera requirements aren't super high. The programmable buttons are so excellent and I wish that was a more prevalent feature.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You want an Xperia. No removable battery (there are almost no "normal" phones with removable batteries) and instead of a popup camera you get a regular front camera in a tiny bezel (so assuming you don't want a stupid hole/notch in the display that's what you want). But they are overall solid phones with excellent DACs and very clean Android. And it's still a mainstream, non-Chinese brand.

    The only disadvantage is price, but they target a niche audience. If you can take a deal with headphones or such it's very much worth it.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Yup. Removable batteries are more rare in flagships than headphone jacks. Currently rocking a Zenfone 6, my next one will be an Xperia - as long as they don't mess it up by removing one of the critical features. (I'm still salty about the removal of the notification led.)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Can confirm: I've been loving my Xperia since I got it a few months ago.

    The other con you didn't mention is availability. I'm in the Eastern US, drove around to several different stores and couldn't find anywhere that carried it. Eventually had to order online and have it shipped, which I normally don't like to do for something this expensive.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    You crave the forbidden phone that does not exist!

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No.

    If you eliminate the removable battery requirements, there are only 9 released since 2020, mostly in China. See https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2020&nYearMax=2023&chkFrontPopup=selected&chk35mm=selected&idCardslot=1

    If you care more about the removable battery than popup camera, there are more options, but still mostly from China. https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nYearMax=2023&chk35mm=selected&idCardslot=1&idBatRemovable=1

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    there are only 9 released since 2020

    The pop-up camera was mostly a "fad" of 2019, also without the removable battery requirements you could add the Zenfone 6 to the list if you include the inception year of 2019.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Very few phones had pop up camera I belive. So that itself narrows down your list. Add removable battery to it, even fewer. 3.5 mm jack, even tinier. SD card slot, maybe you can count on one hand.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No popup camera but I have the Gigaset GS5 and am happy with it. Dual Sim and a SD card slot, not one of those dual Sim/SD card slots.

    Made in Germany and running stock android.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The Motorola G73 scores two out of 3 with a headphone jack and SD card slot, but it doesn't have an easily replacable battery or popup camera. The Fairphone has a replacable battery and SD slot, but no headphone jack.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    My Asus Zenfone 8 has a 3.5mm audio jack. I believe the Zenfone 9 & 10 do as well. No removable battery or memory card slot but should be dual sim. My Zenfone 8 even has FM radio LOL.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    My device, Poco F2 Pro has all that aside the SD slot... It is a very solid phone though.

    Currently using a CLO ROM called Neoteric (based in Paranoid Android I guess) but all AOSP ROMs are pretty fast, I just seek for the better battery backup.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Too bad the Fairphone doesn't have a headphone jack. It checks the other boxes (besides the popup camera). Would a USB-C to audio adapter work?

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    Just embrace the external DACs. It allows you to upgrade your audio experience anytime, unlike with the jack where the DAC in your phone may be pretty eh at times

    I have been using the Apple USB-C DAC ever since both my Poco F1's and my Ideapad's jack died, and enjoyed the significant upgrade the DAC brought to the sound quality.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Try the Samsung XCover 6 Pro. Ignore the criticisms of it not supporting 5G on T-Mobile networks since I use Metro PCS that piggybacks off of it and it runs just fine. Other than its rather large screen size, it feels like one of the earlier Android phones with a removable battery, expandable SD port, and the all important audio jack. It's rather sad as consumers that one of the few models out there that have these features comes from a business phone line.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Excluding the popup camera, your options seem to be low-end Nokia phones, the Galaxy Xcover6 pro, the FairPhone 3 and the PinePhone.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Samsung S10 has Audio jack and SD slot.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago

    Fairphone 3+

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Oppo Reno 2. Has everything you asked except for the removable battery. My aunt's been using for 4 years and the cameras are really good. Cons are: EOL, it's pretty old and has ColorOS if you do mind.

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