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[–] 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

killing all of wikipedia is gunna be almost impossible, theres probably millions of backups around the world. here's a few links to download it, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Not only that, but MediaWiki is FOSS, and all existing content on all Wikimedia Foundation (except for a relative few kept on fair use grounds) is at most as restrictive as CC BY-SA 4.0. So you'd have whatever exists on Wikipedia currently (plus Wiktionary, Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies, etc., keeping in mind too that there are many Wikipedias besides English) plus the software that interacts with that data, other countries which haven't fully descended into fascism, the members of the Wikimedia Foundation, a bunch of pissed-off editors, and a pissed-off public... I think a new, substantially similar non-profit would crop up in the UK etc., and very few things would have to change about the content that's on the platform (where the UK has more restrictive speech laws).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I did already, tried the XOWA client to run a local copy on my PC. Wasn't as easy as I hoped but it worked.

    Planning to get a couple of USBs stashed away with full copies of Wikipedia and the reader app for knowledge security. You can fit the whole thing with a working installation onto a 128GB USB or less. My install dir was about 69GB total.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    additionally not everyone considers to backup the actual software used to compress/decompress the data. that isn’t permanent either and could disappear as well, same as wikipedia rendering such backups useless.

    granted, it’s like, 10000x less likely than the already unlikely event of wikipedia being raptured. but the datahoarder mindset is better safe than sorry…

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago
    [–] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's more to history than Wikipedia. Like physical books

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I didn't even think of that 🤦

    I've been online for too long

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Back in my day you had to buy Wikipedia. It came in like 20 massive volumes that ate up a shelf or two.

    Thinking about it… I wonder what my parents did with our copies…

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    here's the torrent: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dump_torrents#English_Wikipedia
    like 20gb when packed, ~90 when unpacked

    Also archive.org, idk which one to seed that personally fits my limited storage space, so i'll just link the category, https://archive.org/details/wikimediadownloads

    there's also this, but idk about it, just listing options🤷‍♀️ https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/

    *just in case someone thinks its suspicious: they were all linked directly from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download under the "Where do I get the dumps?" section

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You can't kill Wikipedia. MediaWiki is free software. If hosting in the US proves to be too hostile, the foundation can either pack up and host elsewhere, and even if they don't, anyone else can easily host their own Wikipedia as well.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I'm not here to be a doomer but net neutrality was murdered.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you think Wikipedia is the only place that stores historical knowledge, please, start thinking about how much time you're spending online.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Better fucking not. Wikipedia is my life bruh.

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  • [+] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They don’t need or want to kill Wikipedia. They just need to heavily edit it. Kind of a dream come true for those pushing a narrative.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I mean they can try to censor it but I really don't see why the wikimedia foundation wouldn't just move shop to a different country, or a different group just starts running a mirror of it. Like it might be down for a while, at which time we would have to use mirrors, but I can't see any future where its just gone forever.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    There are a lot of citations to things like Britannica from 1911 that is archived and public domain.

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  • Download the Downloader / Viewer at https://kiwix.org/.

    Get your own backed up copy and keep it on a thumb drive.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Start downloading comrades

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I mean every historical source is full of one sided propaganda.

    Have you ever heard the phrase "history is written by winners"?

    What have keep history alive is not Wikipedia. Is the fact that multiple people from multiple POV write things down and we can find and read multiple sources.

    Don't get me wrong, Wikipedia is great, but it's not what keeps history more or less accurate. Take into account that Wikipedia is a sum up of other sources. In order to write to Wikipedia you must quote a primary source.

    And AI really doesn't have much to do with anything here. Bad sources have existed forever, since Herodotus.

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