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[–] 186 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well then it can’t deport all the people it wants to.

But at the same time, my faith in the judicial system is… flagging.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    And our social contract may be expiring. 🤷‍♀️

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Expiring contract? You got traded to El Salvador for a 3rd round pick in 2048 and cash considerations.

    Time to get a new agent for a real contract. Unions won them to begin with, which is why they're a main target of every authoritarian regime.

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  • [+] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Yeah, the Republic fell a month ago with the first times they ignored the courts and some people seem to think they can give it TV style CPR and get right back to where we were on Jan 18 like nothing ever happened.

    Babies, the damage is done. And it's not even over yet. Place your bets now on 2040 turning the corner back to stability. A lot will come to pass between now and then. That's 15 years from now. We have passed a generational level of work to rebuild after only 80-some days.

    If you don't already have an actionable plan for what to do next, with defined tripwires of when to do what, you're very late to the party. Not too late, but late.

    Source: career in the developing world. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it only took one day to sack it it ruin.

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    [–] 149 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    In other words, Trump says he can deport anyone he wants without trial.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you. And even then, that might not protect you.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Won't work. That kind of evidence would be presented at a trial. For your average ICE agent, your documentation, and lack of criminal record makes it obvious that you have ties to a powerful street gang who is hiding your crimes.

    This is literally what ICE has argued in the past few months.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. They literally said that that the lack of evidence is actually the evidence, and that it is proof of a hyperintelligent criminal who has lead a life of crime without ever being caught. And that is why they have no criminal records... because they are criminals who haven't been caught yet!

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago*

    Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you.

    Won't save you from an ICE that's happy to tear them up and deport you anyway. This isn't a legalist regime. Residential "legality" is just a talking point to justify totalitarianism.

    If you believe a piece of paper is going to be a shield against a bunch of thugs with guns, you're going to be in for a hard and sharp awakening when people you know and love end up on the next round of deportation lists.

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  • [–] 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So due process is no longer a thing.

    Got it.

    Hey Maga when Trump turns this on you and you piss and moan about no due process... My response will be this

    🖕

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    [–] 71 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The US CAN, you fucking asswipe. You don't WANT to.

    You are like a petulant child, only caring about what you want, you narcissistic prick.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    Holding trial for the millions of people Trump wants to deport runs the very real and obvious possibility that not all the judges will rubber-stamp the deportations. In fact, you might start running into judges who deliberately obstruct the process because they have a visceral disgust for the practice of mass deportation.

    Can't have that, because the goal is to ethnically cleanse the country. Once Trump decides deporting people to El Salvadorian death camps is too difficult / expensive, we're going to start seeing them spring up all over the interior of the country as well.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's such a coincidence. Some guillotining could be done without trials too!

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

    ― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

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    [–] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Impeachment doesn't require a congressional vote either then

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago

    Key words there being "it wants to deport".

    The problem isn't the trials, it's the selection criteria.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It literally has too. It’s in the constitution.

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    [–] 35 points 1 year ago

    Then you can't deport, numb nuts.

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  • [+] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Add it to the list of impeachable charges, we will give orange man a trial regardless.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Imagine impeachment actually being relevant.

    You forgot his first term didn’t you? Lol

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A hearing is part of deportation.

    Without Due Process it's literally just human trafficking, which is a felony in every single state.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lol.

    America the brave is sitting by while a fat, orange felon rapist shits on our Constitution and tanks our economy.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Whattt? Is Trump saying that the US of A, the "greatest" country in the world, can't engage in its secondmost favourite activity which is literally suing people?

    Not picking favourites, but the Biden administration, not even the Clinton administration, had this "skill issue".

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, Elon and Bezos really need that money for important things. Like to fake sending plastic millionaires into space

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    How about... We can not give every tax to US that it wants to collect, there is just too many.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    As someone outside the US, I was told that people were very keen on keeping lots of guns to react in case the government tried to pull this kind of shit. When's the part where they react?

    I'm sarcastic; I know why it isn't happening, and realistically it would be a terrible thing, but, you know, we're living in the weirdest time.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Then we should reform our immigration policy so we can tax them right? That's the only carrot on a stick I think they conservatives might take.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They do pay taxes. This weird myth that immigrants somehow all live and work in the US for free is silly. They pay income tax if they work, they pay sales tax when they buy things, they pay property tax if they own a home or help someone financially who does.

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