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[–] 194 points 1 year ago (7 children)

No way this is real.

The waiter would have said "Non."

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    [–] 145 points 1 year ago (53 children)

    I am not a vegan but oat milk lattes are the best lattes. They are creamy, rich with flavor that's perfectly aligned w the coffee, lower in calories & more sustainable than classic dairy.

    Everyone should try them once at least.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I like oatmilk in general. Oatmilkshakes are also awesome and oatmilk is way better in cereal

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    I must keeping getting crap oatmilk. I always feel like it's watery, and I shake it before pouring.

    I also drink whole milk, and think anything under 2% might as well be water. Unless it's a chocolate milk full of thickeners instead of just milk and chocolate.

    I also get plain, because I don't want added sugar.

    Suggestions?

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    [–] 92 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    We wanted to order pizza and I told my girlfriend (who is Italian) that I might order Pizza Hawaii. Her reflexes kicked in and she bit me.

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    [–] 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm a french vegetarian living in France after living 6 years in Scotland, France is years behind on the diet inclusion issue, I was shocked how difficult it was to find a place to eat out in Paris, way too many cafe/restaurant/etc.. gets defensive and refuse to serve you if you don't have the "historical diet" (whatever that means) of france, and a lot of them don't offer any "common alternative diet" options on the menu. And it's not better outside of Paris.

    Then of course there are some great places that try to include everyone regardless of their diet, and they are increasing in numbers, but they are still the exception rather than the norm which is a shame.

    If you ever goes in Paris and looking for a fully vegetarian classy restaurant, I recommand "Polichinelle", it's a bit on the expensive side (~50 euro/person), but it's high level cuisine, and for a special occasion it's really worth it.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Italy is just as bad with this kind of stuff, at least in my experience. I'm not even vegan or vegetarian, but I saw it happen a lot when I was there. They had the same kind of "historical diet" excuse, and I'm sitting here thinking "you fuckers didn't even get tomatoes until the 16th century and now you're acting like you invented them."

    I hate food purists so much.

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    [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    That is the standard response in France, I'm surprise that waiter was so polite about it.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's probably the most polite barista in Paris. I'd have expected a tirade, complete with arm waving and rude gestures.

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    So I guess, fuck lactose intolerant, amiright?

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "If yeu cannot drink le milk, don't order le cafe' with le milk."

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I love France they take food and tradition seriously while at the same time their own government is afraid off them.

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    [–] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    In Italy, at “L'Isola della Pizza” in Rome, I asked the guy if I could get a pizza with salami, pepperoni, and sausage, and the guy was like “ah, American style!”

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Salami, pepperoni and sausage? What makes the first 2 not sausage and what is in your definition pure sausage?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The honest answer is this: Salami (sliced salami), pepperoni (sliced spicy salami), and sausage (pre-cooked fennel-flavored uncased/crumbled pork sausage).

    In the US, “sausage” tends to generically refer to uncured, fresh, or raw sausages, often really meaning “ground meat mixed with herbs and spices sometimes in a tube or casing (but not always).”

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah, the french.

    Don't know where europe would be without them.

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    I was on vacation in Flavigny, an incredibly beautiful small village in Burgundy. I wanted my green beans straight from the garden behind the restaurant without butter and asked to use olive oil instead. The waiter was like "Why!?". It took me five minutes to convince him, he was absolutely unsympathetic and I think I had to pay extra. :)

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Honestly, there is a bit of a pride fight in France between the butter cuisines at the North of the Loire river and the olive cuisines at the South of the Loire. So it might not be that much against the idea of make the dish vegan.

    Still that useless, stupid pride. I cook burgeondy dishes with olive oil whenever I feel like it and it is still very good. Not quite the same taste but delicious nevertheless.

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    [+] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I love France and all, but let's not pretend they have good coffee culture. What passes for cappuccino there... The horrors I've seen.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Food snobs might be one of my least favorite types of humans there are. The minute I hear/see someone start talking about how they would never eat that or whatever other bullshit, is almost like I'm hearing them start talking about the good things Trump is doing for everyone. Let's never cross paths again, you're insufferable.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The French are right. When you have fabled cuisine, lauded all over the world as the gold standard… you get resistant to change. And rightfully so.

    Putain, non, is indeed the proper response to said question.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    So France is intolerant towards lactose intolerant people and towards those with specific ethical dietary preferences. And that rightfully so! Be an asshole towards others! It's "in" these days and Paris has been known for being trendy. /s

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    French supermarkets all have very large and wide selection of "free from" style products for allergies and intolerances - gluten free, milk free. Plus vegan and vegetarian. In fact it would put most supermarkets in the US to shame. I also expect that many cafes in Paris cater for people with allergies.

    So it's not that. More likely it's a surly waiter, or a tourist asking for something which is not on the menu and being upset by the answer.

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