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[–] 191 points 1 year ago (13 children)
  • [–] 150 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Latest FDA guidance: Take vitamin A, wash it down with raw milk, and attend virus spreading parties to build natural immunity.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That last part actually works by culling the people who have the most severe symptoms. So you would be building natural immunity in the population, over a long period of time, by dying before you produce offspring.

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    [–] 142 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Keep me updated on which countries approve its use so I can add them to my travel plans.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Make sure they're also countries that will give vaccines to foreigners. I had a hell of a time getting routine flu shots in Spain, Hungary and Thailand. The systems are often set up with the assumption that you're a citizen or have a national healthcare ID of some sort. Without that, good luck finding a clinic who will give you a shot.

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  • [–] 133 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Now consider that Scripps Research, who is developing this, is US-based and receives a lot of federal government funding, and that Trump/Musk/DOGE have been slashing and burning all kinds of federal science staffing and funding. Also consider that their main federal funding comes from HHS, which RFK Jr., notorious vaccine hater, heads.

    Then weep. Progress on this may be stalled for a long time.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe, or maybe some other country poaches them.

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  • [+] 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)
  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Think about all the capitalist profit businesses make for common cold symptoms alone, with over the counter meds and stuff.

    No way something like this would be allowed in our current society.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Just an interesting thing to share… I lived in the US until I was 40 and moved to Norway. They just don’t sell “cold remedy” meds here, or at least not even close to the extent the US does. We have sore throat drops, and OTC pain relief. Some cough medicine but it’s pretty weak imo. I suspect this is because the expectation here is that if you’re sick, you take sick time off work. You can rest and recover. Going to the doc to get sick time approved is at most like $20 and if you and your doc have a good relationship, you can do this via email. In the US, you're expected to power through unless contagious and even then, just try to pretend you’re okay.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What you're saying hits home.

    Conservatives have this tough guy routine, that going to work when you're sick is just manly or "alpha". It's bullshit. Then they spread it so everyone else can get it.

    But the tough thing to do, is go to work, after pumping yourself full of nyquil, or Tylenol, or whatever. It's just so stupid and obvious. They're so "tough" yet they need all this OTC junk to ease the symptoms. Not to mention, not being productive at work, cause you feel like shit. As well as taking longer to get better.

    Personally, I prefer not to take any meds at all. Just go home, sleep a lot, drink water, eat soup, chill, rest, etc.

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    [–] 55 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile, in the U.S. I'm sitting here wondering if we'll even have a flu shot available for next winter, let alone a new vaccine that can protect from Covid and the common cold.

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  • [+] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
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    About a month ago I had the flu - the real flu - for the first time either in ages, or in my life, and I actually had gotten vaccinated in autumn, and man, I thought I was dying. For two weeks I couldn't do anything. Just looking at the stairs gave me endocarditis. I never run fevers and I was just popping painkillers to keep it under 40 degrees. That was nuts. So during and afterwards I mostly been thinking about three things: 1. I would have died for real if I didn't have some basic protection from the vaccine, 2. I want a vaccine against the common cold as well, and 3. Jesus Christ please I don't want to die from a stupid cold or flu, at least make it Covid, but that's such a lowball way to go

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Also, fuck cancer. (Cancer vaccines may be next, the end of the article.)

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know my state would find a way to ban this shit. They hate anything that prevents needless suffering.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Does it also contain the latest patches for my Autism?

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    [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    OK, so if I understand this correctly, they don't train the immune system to target these sugars, since they're used by human cells. Instead, they remove them during the vaccine administration so the immune system can train on the bare spike protein. Cool. Now how would this help when new virus copies come in with sugar-coated proteins, some time after the sugar stripping agent is gone from the system?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    What they've found, from the article, and abstract (alas I didn't see any links to full text paper, which may come available after the ACS Spring 2025 meeting), is that they indeed do get an effective broad based immune response against coronaviruses. The 'sugar stripping agent' process is used in the production of the immunogen (basically a glycan stripped version of the more highly conserved spike protein that occurs in all/ many/ a lot of coronaviruses, i.e. which cause common cold, MERS, and COVID19), such that a broad based immune response is evoked when applying it, some time after the sugars (glycans) have already been stripped. Remember the spike is the consistent (conserved) part, and the glycans are the camouflage bits. Researchers have been trying to come up with something based on the spike protein for some time, and this is the sort of breakthrough that they've been working towards. Doubtless more info will be available after the research has been officially presented, March 23-27. (https://www.acs.org/meetings/acs-meetings/spring.html) So it's literally happening now. And may show up on Chi-Huey Wong's google scholar page (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=GQLirSoAAAAJ) or at Scripps/Sinica (https://www.genomics.sinica.edu.tw/chihueywong/)

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    [+] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)
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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I wonder how this could help those with long COVID.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    long covid, aka sequelae (medical term) means you had a long last complication that seperate from the virus. the inflammation couldve damaged parts of your body you are chronically suffering from. it might not help, since its not caused by the virus anymore.

    its basically like having PHN, or nerve damage after shingles, the vaccine wont help you with that.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I don't think it's going to help them. long covid is past the stage of virus infection. It's where the body is attacking itself.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    It depends! Sometimes it's autoimmune, sometimes it's lingering virus, sometimes it's disrupted regulatory systems, etc. When it's the immune system or lingering virus, a new vaccine can often get the immune system to relearn how to correctly handle the virus

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    So I've read up a good bit on this topic / issue. Many times long covid can be a result of the infection causing neural damage which then leads to long term inflammation. While this isn't the only reason for it, doing a protocol to repair damaged neural tissue and receptors has been effective with people I know. It has reduced or removed the symptoms they experience.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Coronaviruses are not the only cause for what is considered the "common cold". I remember that some Rhinoviruses, Adenoviruses and I think a forth family of viruses also cause symptoms that are counted as a cold. It's kind of a catch all term.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    This I want.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hah; I can hear RFK jr already.

    [Gravely voice] "Look if you want to put that unproven poison in your body I would not recommend doing when alternatives exist, like oranges, and Vitamin D, and death."

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    [+] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Where can I get one?

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