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Germans caught celebrating Oktoberfest with Nazi salutes (www.jpost.com)
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Performing Nazi salutes has been illegal in Germany and Austria since the end of World War II and is punishable by law with prison time.

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[–] 104 points 2 years ago (9 children)

This ia huge clickbait sadly. It's some random small oktoberfest, where some drunken germans maybe doing the Hitler greeting.

I'm not saying it's okay what they do, but by far not world news. This would be maximum local news if at all.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Well they are also playing "Erika" which is a right wing dog whistle, though maybe not as uncommon in these circles, as outright Nazi salutes

    Edit: Also curiously most people, myself included, never find themselves in danger of accidentally heil hitlering even when blackout drunk. Seems to become a more common occurrence in Saxony though.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well I'm thinking the same, but then I'm not sure where to put this video (ignoring the sound track) on a scale from drunken singing to obvious Nazi salute.

    Maybe i don't know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air? The arm movement seems unnatural (if the intention was signing with arms in the air), but this could still sort-of pass as not 100% Heil Hitler.

    The band chose the song, for sure, that's questionable. The event organisers should not allow this to happen. But the guests, should they leave? Sit down quietly and wait for the next song?

    I could be in that tent and not recognise the song. Not my kind of music.

    I could see people innocently copying the movement of others. It may be a tent full of Nazis, scary, but the video does not proof this.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Maybe i don't know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air?

    Did we watch the same video? In the Twitter thread I saw the lady right in front was doing multiple Nazi salutes in a row, very excited about the song. Don't think there's any ambiguity what she was doing

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Should be easy to catch and jail them, if photos and videos are being taken all over the event.

    Germany should learn how Americans were able to catch so many Nazis during the Jan 6th insurrection. 😂

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago

    In Saxony. Unfortunately I'm not even surprised anymore.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That was a disappointing Where's Waldo the Nazi. Everyone is either clapping or some shit. Waste of time. At least the dude with the roasted chicken for a hat was fun. 1/5 don't recommend.

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    • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Proud neo-nazis or drunk idiots?

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    If you’re a drunk idiot “jokingly” doing nazi salutes as an adult in Germany, you’re just being a nazi. At best nazi-adjacent.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I think you're severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I'm justifying their behavior in any way, but it's possible they're just really stupid.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    And I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don't do it.
    The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they're not at least right leaning.

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