▲ 202 ▼ Germans caught celebrating Oktoberfest with Nazi salutes (www.jpost.com) submitted 2 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments Performing Nazi salutes has been illegal in Germany and Austria since the end of World War II and is punishable by law with prison time.
[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Proud neo-nazis or drunk idiots? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 76 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you’re a drunk idiot “jokingly” doing nazi salutes as an adult in Germany, you’re just being a nazi. At best nazi-adjacent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jables@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think you're severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I'm justifying their behavior in any way, but it's possible they're just really stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn't make you a nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago And I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don't do it. The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they're not at least right leaning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Being really stupid is a requirement for being a Neo-Nazi. Stupidity is not an excuse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nobsi@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago There is no "nazi but just ironically" permalink fedilink source parent [–] kjr@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago @atlasraven31 Possibly drunk proud neo-nazi idiots. @stopthatgirl7 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 76 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If you’re a drunk idiot “jokingly” doing nazi salutes as an adult in Germany, you’re just being a nazi. At best nazi-adjacent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jables@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think you're severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I'm justifying their behavior in any way, but it's possible they're just really stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn't make you a nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago And I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don't do it. The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they're not at least right leaning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Being really stupid is a requirement for being a Neo-Nazi. Stupidity is not an excuse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nobsi@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago There is no "nazi but just ironically" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jables@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) I think you're severely underestimating how stupid some people can be without malicious intent. Not that I'm justifying their behavior in any way, but it's possible they're just really stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn't make you a nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago And I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don't do it. The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they're not at least right leaning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Being really stupid is a requirement for being a Neo-Nazi. Stupidity is not an excuse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nobsi@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago There is no "nazi but just ironically" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn't make you a nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children) Not for nothing, but it could also be tourists. Not defending nazis, because I would argue that being drunk lowers inhibitions, but it doesn't make you a nazi. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, tourists sometimes think it would be funny. But this did not happen at the Oktoberfest in Munich. It was an Oktoberfest in a village in Saxony with about 2500 inhabitants (actually a collection of several villages). I would bet the chances of tourists being present are very close to zero. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Some people visit Saxony. Cool castles, Dresden... yeah Ok probably not tourists. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) asdfasfs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right, but we're talking about the people in this photo. Germans and Austrians know not to make nazi salutes because you could face legal repercussions. That's a weird concept for Americans, though. I kind of wish we did jail more nazis, but that's besides the point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasfasdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago And I think you are underestimating how much of a deeply ingrained taboo the nazi salute is for the typical German. You are right, some people can be very stupid, especially drunk. But no German who has not been in some way socilized among nazis would be stupid enough to ever casually do a nazi salute. You just don't do it. The only exception I might allow besides actual nazis are very stupid or drunk (or both) teenagers trying too hard to be edgy. And even then most people would find it hard to believe that they're not at least right leaning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _MusicJunkie@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago Being really stupid is a requirement for being a Neo-Nazi. Stupidity is not an excuse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago There is no "nazi but just ironically" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kjr@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago @atlasraven31 Possibly drunk proud neo-nazi idiots. @stopthatgirl7 permalink fedilink source parent