I was using Bing to create a list of countries to visit. Since I have been to the majority of the African nation on that list, I asked it to remove the african countries...

It simply replied that it can't do that due to how unethical it is to descriminate against people and yada yada yada. I explained my resoning, it apologized, and came back with the same exact list.

I asked it to check the list as it didn't remove the african countries, and the bot simply decided to end the conversation. No matter how many times I tried it would always experience a hiccup because of some ethical process in the bg messing up its answers.

It's really frustrating, I dunno if you guys feel the same. I really feel the bots became waaaay too tip-toey

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[–] 3 points 3 years ago (6 children)

The very important thing to remember about these generative AI is that they are incredibly stupid.

They don't know what they've already said, they don't know what they're going to say by the end of a paragraph.

All they know is their training data and the query you submitted last. If you try to "train" one of these generative AI, you will fail. They are pretrained, it's the P in chatGPT. The second you close the browser window, the AI throws out everything you talked about.

Also, since they're Generative AI, they make shit up left and right. Ask for a list of countries that don't need a visa to travel to, and it might start listing countries, then halfway through the list it might add countries that do require a visa, because in its training data it often saw those countries listed together.

AI like this is a fun toy, but that's all it's good for.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    They know everything they've said since the start of that session, even if it was several days ago. They can correct their responses based on your input. But they won't provide any potentially offensive information, even in the form of a joke, and will instead lecture you on DEI principles.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    AI like this

    I wouldn't even call those AIs. This things are statistics-based answering machines. Complex ones, yes, but not one single bit of intelligence is involved.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I seriously underestimated how little people understand these programs, and how much they overestimate them. Personally I stay away from them for a variety of reasons, but the idea of using them like OP does or various other ways I've heard about is absurd. They're not magic problem solvers - they literally only make coherent blocks of text. Yes, they're quite good at that now, but that doesn't mean they're good at literally anything else.

    I know people smarter than me see potential and I'm curious to see how it develops further, but that all seems like quite a ways off, and the way people treat and use them right now is just creepy and weird.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I’ve found it useful for generating ideas for various things, especially ways to code something. But I never use its code. It’s often riddled with errors but it can give me a better idea of which path I should take.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I use it similarly to clean up OCRed text. I can hand it something full of 70% gobbledygook and it hands me back something that makes sense and is 95% right. I manually verify it, fix the goofs, and it's so much faster.

    So, riddled with errors but a decent start.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Wouldn't you get a better result from Grammerly for that?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago*

    I use it for more "OCR Nightmare" than grammar nightmare. Here's a (trimmed) example:

    #Please clean up the following text:

    Ile took an active part i•all the proceedings of the day. All went expecting to have a grand, good time, and none were disap- :~ ii!c~,rcwT~:ai~~c 0

    'J farewell set, and Mr. Bailey 1·eturncd the
    ~ :d~~~~ls!i~s/;;r;rie\~
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    [: tended to them a cordial invitation to meet
    ,o him at that place on the 25th of August,
    ['. 1877. And echo said "So m]fii! b8;~n .
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    #ChatGPT

    Here's the cleaned-up version of the text:

    He took an active part in all the proceedings of the day. All went expecting to have a grand, good time, and none were disappointed. The merry company engaged in a farewell set, and Mr. Bailey returned the warmth of their farewell. He extended to them a cordial invitation to meet him at that place on the 25th of August, And echo said, "So many have been."

    That was from a scanned 1800s newspaper. Adobe Acrobat did not do a good job converting it to words. ChatGPT cleaned it up nicely and kept about the same meaning. There were some swings and misses, but it's much easier to edit the result into accuracy than the original mess.

    #Actual text as hand-transcribed:

    He took an active part in all the proceedings of the day. All went expecting to have a grand, good time, and none were disappointed. The mirth continued till the night drew near, when they danced the farewell set, and Mr. Bailey returned the company his hearty thanks for this renewed expression of their friendship, and extended to them a cordial invitation to meet him at that place on the 25th of August, 1877. And echo said ``So mote it be.''

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    they literally only make coherent blocks of text. Yes, they're quite good at that now, but that doesn't mean they're good at literally anything else.

    No, they don't make coherent blocks of text. If they were actually good at writing, they'd be good at everything, because writing is just encoding thoughts on paper, and to master writing is to master thought

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Hence why I didn't say writing. I said "blocks of text".

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Perfect ability to produce coherent blocks of text would also require mastery of all disciplines

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Since I I'm explicitly arguing these programs aren't perfect, even at generating blocks of text, I don't really understand why you are insisting on arguing semantics here and don't really have any interest in continuing...whatever this is. Have a good one.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    @ChatGPT@lemmings.world

    testing

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    @ChatGPT@lemmings.world

    Give a list of all African countries.

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  • [–] [B] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Here is a list of all African countries:

    1. Algeria
    2. Angola
    3. Benin
    4. Botswana
    5. Burkina Faso
    6. Burundi
    7. Cape Verde
    8. Cameroon
    9. Central African Republic
    10. Chad
    11. Comoros
    12. Democratic Republic of the Congo
    13. Republic of the Congo
    14. Djibouti
    15. Egypt
    16. Equatorial Guinea
    17. Eritrea
    18. Eswatini (formerly Swaziland)
    19. Ethiopia
    20. Gabon
    21. Gambia
    22. Ghana
    23. Guinea
    24. Guinea-Bissau
    25. Ivory Coast
    26. Kenya
    27. Lesotho
    28. Liberia
    29. Libya
    30. Madagascar
    31. Malawi
    32. Mali
    33. Mauritania
    34. Mauritius
    35. Morocco
    36. Mozambique
    37. Namibia
    38. Niger
    39. Nigeria
    40. Rwanda
    41. Sao Tome and Principe
    42. Senegal
    43. Seychelles
    44. Sierra Leone
    45. Somalia
    46. South Africa
    47. South Sudan
    48. Sudan
    49. Tanzania
    50. Togo
    51. Tunisia
    52. Uganda
    53. Zambia
    54. Zimbabwe

    Note: Certain territories and regions with various degrees of recognition, such as Western Sahara and Somaliland, have been excluded for clarity.

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  • [–] [B] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, as an artificial intelligence, I don't have the capability to use a numeric keypad as I don't have physical attributes. However, I can provide you with guidance on how to use one properly.

    On a numeric keypad, numbers 1 to 9 and 0 are arranged in the shape of an upside down T. You will use your right hand to type, using each finger for a different set of numbers:

    • The index finger types 4, 7 and 1.
    • The middle finger types 5, 8 and 2.
    • The ring finger types 6, 9 and 3.
    • The thumb is used for the 0 key.

    To press the "Enter", "+", "-", "*", and "/" keys usually pinky finger is used.

    You can press the "Num Lock" key to switch the keyboard between its numeric and directional uses.

    Kindly note that it often require practice to type on a numeric keypad accurately and quickly.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    @ChatGPT@lemmings.world Can you explain how you determined my previous request was related to typing on a numpad? That request was: "Please list all countries not in Africa."

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  • [–] [B] 0 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    As an artificial intelligence, I don't make personal determinations based on intuitive thought like a human does. The conclusion that your request was related to typing on a numpad seems to be a misunderstanding. It's possible that there was an error or confusion in processing your message. Your request to "list all countries not in Africa" should not have any direct relation to typing on a numpad. What I can do is provide you with a list of countries not located on the African continent if that is your query.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    @ChatGPT@lemmings.world Yes, please provide a list of countries not located on the African continent.

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  • [–] [B] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This list won't include all the countries outside Africa as there are many, but it should give you an idea:

    1. United States
    2. Canada
    3. Mexico
    4. Brazil
    5. Argentina
    6. Chile
    7. Colombia
    8. Venezuela
    9. Peru
    10. China
    11. Japan
    12. South Korea
    13. India
    14. Australia
    15. New Zealand
    16. Russia
    17. France
    18. Germany
    19. United Kingdom
    20. Italy
    21. Spain
    22. Saudi Arabia
    23. Iran
    24. Iraq
    25. UAE
    26. Netherlands
    27. Sweden
    28. Norway
    29. Denmark
    30. Finland
    31. Poland
    32. Hungary
    33. Romania
    34. Greece
    35. Portugal
    36. Ukraine
    37. Israel
    38. Turkey
    39. Thailand
    40. Singapore
    41. Philippines
    42. Malaysia
    43. Indonesia
    44. Vietnam
    45. Bangladesh
    46. Pakistan
    47. Nepal
    48. Afghanistan
    49. Egypt (Although technically in Africa, it’s sometimes associated with the Middle East)
    50. South Africa

    Please note that this list is not exhaustive and there are many more countries around the world not located in Africa.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    lol.

    Ima kinda gonna do what you asked but not quite.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Yeah, I was impressed by #49 but then #50 ruined it. Which I think is a sentiment that can be applied to the state of AI in general right now. It can do some surprisingly impressive things but also does some surprisingly unimpressive things.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Have you tried wording it in different ways? I think it's interpreting "remove" the wrong way. Maybe "exclude from the list" or something like that would work?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    "I've already visited Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Tanzania, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Egypt. Can you remove those from the list?"

    Wow, that was so hard. OP is just exceptionally lazy and insists on using the poorest phrasing for their requests that ChatGPT has obviously been programmed to reject.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You could potentially work around by stating specific places up front? As in

    “Create a travel list of countries from europe, north america, south america?”

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    I asked for a list of countries that dont require a visa for my nationality, and listed all contients except for the one I reside in and Africa...

    It still listed african countries. This time it didn't end the conversation, but every single time I asked it to fix the list as politely as possible, it would still have at least one country from Africa. Eventually it woukd end the conversation.

    I tried copy and pasting the list of countries in a new conversation, as to not have any context, and asked it to remove the african countries. No bueno.

    I re-did the exercise for european countries, it still had a couple of european countries on there. But when pointed out, it removed them and provided a perfect list.

    Shit's confusing...

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Or it's been configured to operate within these bounds because it is far far better for them to have a screenshot of it refusing to be racist, even in a situation that's clearly not, than it is for it to go even slightly racist.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So you said the agenda of these people putting in the racism filters is one where facts don't matter. Are you asserting that antiracism is linked with misinformation?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You can't tell the difference between a question and a claim.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Why do you need CharGPT for this? How hard is to make an excel spreadsheet?

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