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Original ‘Daredevil’ Showrunner Calls Out ‘Disney Scam’ of Naming New Series ‘Daredevil: Born Again’: It ‘Resets Contract Terms Back to First Season’ (variety.com)
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“It’s an old Disney scam where they slightly rename a series to reset contract terms back to first season,” DeKnight wrote on X/Twitter. “Needs to be addressed by all the guilds/unions and crushed!”

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[–] 112 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Makes no sense if it's the same premise, same major characters and basically the same recipe as the original -- which seems to be its selling point. But the mouse fucks over whoever it can.

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  • [–] 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's going to be some kind of a soft reboot. It won't be the same show. It's not even going to have Karen and Foggy.

    I don't know if it'll be good, or not. I just know, it won't be a 4th season of The Daredevil we know.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Weird that they didn’t hire back the two best characters on the show, especially since Deborah Ann Woll has made it clear she’s still interested.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If Deborah Ann Woll wants to be in their show and Deborah Ann Woll is not in their show, I fear a lot of bad decisions are going into the production of their show.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    “I can say this: they have not called me yet. So, as of now, I am not a part of it,” Woll revealed on a recent episode of the “Inside of You” podcast (via Total Film), hosted by “Smallville” alum Michael Rosenbaum. “I would be thrilled to get to be a part of it. They know where I am. Like I said, I love the character Karen Page. I love telling that story. I feel like I have more to say. But it is up to them what kind of story that they want to tell.”

    https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/daredevil-deborah-ann-woll-not-asked-marvel-join-born-again-1235435877/

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That will be the sticking point. If this is a continuation of the Netflix series, resetting the contract terms will be messed up.

    If it's not a continuation, it's still kind of messed up that they're going with the less generous contract terms. I also personally think that would be a bad decision just from a creative standpoint. People wanted more of the Netflix Daredevil, not Disney-fied Daredevil with some of the same actors.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Don't you think this show will be a little more than a vague reference or a quick cameo? I think you're making a really disingenuous argument here.

    And those cameos or shared-universe things should be negotiated anyway and probably are. It actually is also somewhat helpful for the show to share the universe with another popular show, otherwise they wouldn't do that. But this isn't that. This is them going "you liked Netflix's Daredevil, so here, enjoy". That's their selling point. It's not from the makers of Daredevil, it's the same Daredevil.

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    • [–] 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    Unchecked corporate greed continues… Support the writers and actors! ✊

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Unchecked corporate greed" has been the primary theme of 2023.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    For the last century

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We were able to reign it in a bit when corporations and the rich were heavily taxed and unions were much stronger and more prevalent. The last fifty years have eroded that away. We need the reign it in again. ✊

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also: please for the love of god stop buying media associated with disney, just pirate it

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Or just don't watch it all. If its not worthy your money, its probably shouldn't be worth your time.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Part of the issue is that Disney's media group continues to put out high quality content year after year. Plus their services like theme parks remain in high demand after several years of steep price hikes. How do you compete with that?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly, their recent stuff that's aimed at adults hasn't been great. Most of the Star Wars series, for instance, sucked.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I mean we vote with our wallets and we don't watch their stuff so it fades to obscurity. Even watching something via piracy just means you will possibly recommend it to others leading to sales of their service. If you want a company to die that is really the only answer.

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    • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    They mention that it is "an old Disney scam", are there other examples of this? I can't think of any but I'm curious to know how those other examples played out.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The suite life of Zach and Cody changing to the suite life on deck

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Interesting. I looked up this show and it looks like it kept the same creator credits. I do wonder if there was some secret behind the scenes things going on, or if some other shenanigans happened (obviously if it's supposed to be a secret, it's hard to find.)

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    I'm not being sarcastic, check out every single Disney series that runs longer than a few seasons. Every. Single. One.

    Much like a CEO that gets fired by the shareholders if he misses and avenue for profit, I have no doubt that CEO would fire producers that didn't do the same thing.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes. What I wish from Marvel television is a buch of different series, different genres, and tones, who still exist in the same world and occasionally interact with each other. Thats what Marvel comics do.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    We were getting that with the Netflix and even ABC shows. Sadly, they've gone for quantity over quality with the Disney+ shows and nothing TV-MA exists in the MCU anymore. The new book that shows the official timeline completely leaves out all shows that weren't made for Disney+.

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    • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Fuck Disney.

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    [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    I heard talk of this, and I'm a bit curious if this is in fact the reason why they have named it so.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It is an old Disney trick but I think this is different. Kevin Feige had very little say about the old marvel shows, he butted heads a lot with the guy who was in charge of the TV shows, Ike Perlmutter. Ike was a piece of shit and is no longer in charge, so you can't really blame Kevin Feige for wanting to wipe the slate clean. I've been thankful he decided to keep the two biggest names from the original show but in no way was the new show going to be a continuation, unlike the other examples listed in the comments

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