I'll give Drew a mulligan if she truly about faces and proves she's not just reacting to the backlash (although currently I'm sure that is why), that's only because I've never seen her be cruel or mean to someone, maybe she has, and I just missed it. I know her family is Hollywood royalty, so it's possible she really does suck. But I've never seen it myself.

Bill Maher could sacrifice his life for the strike, and I'd probably still hate him because over the course of his career he's never been anything besides a self-righteous prick.

You know who should get credit for listening?

John Oliver. If you think that Hollywood writers aren't making enough money, then this guys is doing it right.

Still as a moderate it is nice to hear someone well-known on the left give a balanced opinion. Someone needed to at least say some of the things Maher has, even if he didn't actually convince any of his primary audience.

The fact that they had to backpedal means they pedaled with intent and effort. We've been seeing too much of this tone-deaf behavior, damage control and media spin from too many places lately.

There was a brief period of time after I de-converted where I was glad there was a mainstream talk show host in America who is vocal about being nonreligious. But soon after that I learned he is a terrible representative of that identity, just as he is a terrible representative of any other identity he has.

As a republican turned Democrat in recent years, this is spot-on for me.

where he tells his fellow ignorant people what to think.

In the last few years he's had a deeply progressive audience. And they used to groan at him. And he's just become more ignorant, and I hope it does ruin his reputation and that of his show. I soent so many nights thinking he would have great jokes about the state of things, just to be lectured about why transgenderism and wokism is an empty fad.

His past shows years ago could be good. He'd have interesting guests with differing views on a timely subject. He just never learned the first rule of being a good host. Shut up and let your guests talk. This goes for any talk shows, the best hosts would not only listen to and let their guests talk, they were great at teasing out the details without damn interrupting the flow. If you have an ego and want people to hear what you think about something, then you'll make a terrible talk show host.

That’s how I feel about all talk shows.

He still has a show? Who’s watching that?

Just Bill Maher.

Boomers that wanna feel even more smug and self-righteous

People who thought it was a bill burr special?

Other rich upper class liberals who don't care for, or actually support, working class people, or unions.

I did as recently as 2020! I felt HBO had quite a lot street cred, hosting Vice News and shows about current American issues. And Bill was not so bad then, but he's rapidly become such an obvious shithead since then.

His target is liberals that lean more centrist than your normal liberal (which is already fairly center). There's a surprising number of them because so many people in rural cities in the US want to move to the left compared to their parents, but too far left is scary and a drastic change from their normality. His target audience is people who have basic empathy, but no motivation to change and they need somebody to tell them it's okay that they don't want to change things.

The only people I know who watch the show, are my 60yo Conservative parents. IDK why people think he appeals to liberals.

tbf, for all his fans, the jokes will remain unchanged

Ah, the rare lose-lose trade. I can't imagine seeing either of them live.