CNN report said North Carolina candidate for governor made explicit posts on website’s message board

Mark Robinson, North Carolina’s lieutenant governor, announced a lawsuit Tuesday against CNN over its recent report alleging he made explicit racial and sexual posts on a pornography website’s message board, calling the reporting reckless and defamatory.

The lawsuit, filed in Wake county superior court, comes less than four weeks after a television report that led many fellow GOP elected officials and candidates, including Donald Trump, to distance themselves from Robinson’s gubernatorial campaign. Robinson announced the lawsuit at a news conference in Raleigh.

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[+] 167 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 81 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Sadly it won't ever get to that phase. This is just so he can claim it's a lie between now and election day. He'll quietly drop the lawsuit about a week after the election.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I think it's more likely that he'll demand to settle or simply drop the lawsuit. Typical SLAPP behaviour.

    CNN will likely try to have it dismissed because the legal fees will surely be astronomical.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Real news media doesn't make controversial statements about individuals unless they have proof. I am quite certain that before this story went to press, there were serious internal discussions at CNN about not only its validity, but about CNN's ability to demonstrate that validity in court.

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  • [–] 58 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Things have been so crazy I forgot about this. Thanks for the reminder, Mark Robinson.

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  • [+] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Seriously...does he not know that is part of the process? And to defend it they'll dig up everything and more to produce as evidence.

    Problem is, it'll likely be silently settled and we'll never hear about it again and he can just lie and say he won or some shit.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    "Calling the report reckless and defamatory" but not incorrect.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Defamatory implies it's false

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    True. Though if you read the original CNN article, the circumstantial evidence is fairly damning. I don't think he has any chance of getting out from under this.

    Also, in a legal context, I think there very well may be a distinction between claiming a report is defamatory versus claiming it is false. As per Wikipedia:

    The precise legal definition of defamation varies from country to country. It is not necessarily restricted to making assertions that are falsifiable

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    distinction between claiming a report is defamatory versus claiming it is false.

    A statement is not defamatory if it's not false. It might be embarrassing and potentially damaging, but not defamation.

    "There are five essential elements to defamation: (1) The accusation is false; and (2) it impeaches the subject's character; and (3) it is published to a third person; and (4) it damages the reputation of the subject; and (5) that the accusation is done intentionally or with fault such as wanton disregard of facts." - Ron Hankin, Navigating the Legal Minefield of Private Investigations: A Career-Saving Guide for Private Investigators, Detectives, And Security Police, Looseleaf Law Publications, 2008, p. 59.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Actually he is. Calling something defamatory implies that the statement is false. The inverse is also true: if a statement is true, then it's not defamation.

    (source: I was hyperfixated on the Depp v. Heard trial)

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    Wasn't CNN like crazy-careful about documentation, proof, and public records? Good luck, you weird racist MAGA pervert-freak...

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Can't wait for whatever comes out in discovery.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    It’s almost impossible to win a defamation lawsuit as a public person. This is just being used as a flimsy shield before the election to try to give his denials some credibility. The standard is so high that unless someone at CNN was recorded as admitting to making this up then this case won’t make it very far.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    That's foolish of him, because as defendants they now have standing to subpoena. He will be proven to be a weird fucking pervert in civil court.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    His public comments are equally as disgusting.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Ah, the old Trumpian tactic of suing someone for telling the truth.

    I'm betting Warner Bros. has more money and better lawyers than you, Mark.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Bet, lets move on to discovery.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Oh look, North Carolina just happens to be one of the states with no anti-SLAPP laws on the books.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    This will be an interesting court case.

    If cnn can prove what they reported then he's just digging a deeper hole.

    If cnn can't prove it they are in deep doggy doo doo.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm going out on a limb, just a hunch really, and I think CNN will come out of this just fine. Robinson is the man with a shovel, and he's gonna dig.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Its pretty obvious. They use the idea of reasonable doubt in the investigation, but then point out specific instances of him basically saying the same thing on both Twitter and Nude Africa, using terms of phrase that are very uncommon, generally on the same day. It was pretty damning.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Robinson's entire defense so far has been to claim this is a hoax and when asked how posts on pages going back years can be hoaxed, he gives a "trust me, bro" response.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, the dude got caught dead to rights. This is a poor attempt at damage control but an excellent example of the Streisand effect. Whether he wins or loses in November I expect the suit will be dropped after the election because he doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    This is an unfortunate tradition of having a Democrat governor but Republican for NC Congress and higher. It's no indicator of any potential. However, I do think we have another chance to do 2008 again, despite all the work the GOP has put into preventing more voters.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    If cnn can’t prove it they are in deep doggy doo doo.

    Not really. They came with the receipts, showing time after time that the commenter shared personal details and used indiosyncratic turns of phrase that Robinson repeated on public accounts and forums. They had a very reasonable belief that it was true, and never claimed more than that. In the US, for a public figure, that's generally more than enough.

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