▲ 452 ▼ Really? (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by LOCKMART@sh.itjust.works to c/noncredibledefense@sh.itjust.works 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 172 points 2 years ago (8 children) For those doing the maths at home: An F35 who obligingly flies top-towards-you (not exactly something you can do, but hey, maybe they're turning) is all of 10m tall. An AIM-120C can very comfortably hit a target at 100km. At that range, the F-35 takes up 26 arcseconds, or 0.007 degrees. That's roughly about the size of this period, at a distance of 3 meters away. [ . ] Good luck spotting that in a sky of roughly the same colour, full of other objects. permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 79 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can place cameras anywhere, they don't need to be right next to what is being targeted. Nearer ranges will allow AI to misidentify at much higher rates than max standoff ranges of an AIM-120C. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago I don’t think you were getting enough credit for ‘misidentify’. permalink fedilink source parent [+] SARGE@startrek.website 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] affiliate@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago with a big enough screen i bet an AI camera could see it too permalink fedilink source parent [–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago "I said AI sir!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but what about the AI? Have you thought about the AI that would be running it, which never misses, and would totally be a useful existing thing? 😉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago And if it isn't, just frankenstein another AI against it. The solution to lacking AI is more AI, obviously. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Just for reference: JWST has an optical resolution of 0.07 arcseconds. It’s a mirror 22 feet in diameter though, not something you’d put inside a missile guidance package. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) JWST operates in space, i.e. there is no atmosphere blurr to take into account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah I’m not suggesting we make a missile with JWST mounted on the front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well but I am! Although, we would still need to get it back here... Okay so first we send two more rockets after it! One to return it on and one with the/a human engineer on board to pack it back up. I mean we can hardly have it return while unpacked. That would damage the delicate heat baffles! And we need those to shield it from the rockt engine at the back of our missile so it doesn't start targeting itself because it no longer knows where it is/isn't... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Holy shit. I just realised that the reason they're building the ELT is so they can mount it on a missile and shoot down an F-35 at some point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago Magnifying glass makes things bigger, checkmate! 🔍🔍 permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago and then also dealing with the F-35 itself, even if you managed to lock on and target it, it will have anti-warfare capabilities you have to contend with. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, sure. But that doesn't matter if you point the AI at it with a really good zoom lens, though. And then you have a ton of them, pointed in an directions, like the compound eye of a fly. F35 spotted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 79 points 2 years ago (1 child) You can place cameras anywhere, they don't need to be right next to what is being targeted. Nearer ranges will allow AI to misidentify at much higher rates than max standoff ranges of an AIM-120C. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago I don’t think you were getting enough credit for ‘misidentify’. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago I don’t think you were getting enough credit for ‘misidentify’. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SARGE@startrek.website 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] affiliate@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago with a big enough screen i bet an AI camera could see it too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago with a big enough screen i bet an AI camera could see it too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah but what about the AI? Have you thought about the AI that would be running it, which never misses, and would totally be a useful existing thing? 😉 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago And if it isn't, just frankenstein another AI against it. The solution to lacking AI is more AI, obviously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago And if it isn't, just frankenstein another AI against it. The solution to lacking AI is more AI, obviously. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Just for reference: JWST has an optical resolution of 0.07 arcseconds. It’s a mirror 22 feet in diameter though, not something you’d put inside a missile guidance package. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) JWST operates in space, i.e. there is no atmosphere blurr to take into account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah I’m not suggesting we make a missile with JWST mounted on the front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well but I am! Although, we would still need to get it back here... Okay so first we send two more rockets after it! One to return it on and one with the/a human engineer on board to pack it back up. I mean we can hardly have it return while unpacked. That would damage the delicate heat baffles! And we need those to shield it from the rockt engine at the back of our missile so it doesn't start targeting itself because it no longer knows where it is/isn't... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Holy shit. I just realised that the reason they're building the ELT is so they can mount it on a missile and shoot down an F-35 at some point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) JWST operates in space, i.e. there is no atmosphere blurr to take into account. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah I’m not suggesting we make a missile with JWST mounted on the front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well but I am! Although, we would still need to get it back here... Okay so first we send two more rockets after it! One to return it on and one with the/a human engineer on board to pack it back up. I mean we can hardly have it return while unpacked. That would damage the delicate heat baffles! And we need those to shield it from the rockt engine at the back of our missile so it doesn't start targeting itself because it no longer knows where it is/isn't... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah I’m not suggesting we make a missile with JWST mounted on the front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well but I am! Although, we would still need to get it back here... Okay so first we send two more rockets after it! One to return it on and one with the/a human engineer on board to pack it back up. I mean we can hardly have it return while unpacked. That would damage the delicate heat baffles! And we need those to shield it from the rockt engine at the back of our missile so it doesn't start targeting itself because it no longer knows where it is/isn't... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reinei@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Well but I am! Although, we would still need to get it back here... Okay so first we send two more rockets after it! One to return it on and one with the/a human engineer on board to pack it back up. I mean we can hardly have it return while unpacked. That would damage the delicate heat baffles! And we need those to shield it from the rockt engine at the back of our missile so it doesn't start targeting itself because it no longer knows where it is/isn't... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago Holy shit. I just realised that the reason they're building the ELT is so they can mount it on a missile and shoot down an F-35 at some point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago Magnifying glass makes things bigger, checkmate! 🔍🔍 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago and then also dealing with the F-35 itself, even if you managed to lock on and target it, it will have anti-warfare capabilities you have to contend with. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yeah, sure. But that doesn't matter if you point the AI at it with a really good zoom lens, though. And then you have a ton of them, pointed in an directions, like the compound eye of a fly. F35 spotted. permalink fedilink source parent
