Atlanta as well. The frustrating thing is that Atlanta has MARTA, but the state refuses to fund it and MARTA's answer for everything is to divert funds away from rail to bus lines. But then the degraded rail service means more people drive than ride trains, thereby increasing gridlock, which causes bus service to suffer. So then MARTA diverts funds away from rail to bus lines...

Can't be Houston, he said 7 lane highway not pothole ridden, Mad Max hellscape

I'm not sure. Public transportation infrastructure is insanely expensive. Where I live (France), there was a project to add a new subway line. A single one. Estimated cost was more than 2 G€. And that's before taking into the numerous issues of another subway line modernization program...

The issue with Austin is most of the traffic isn't Austin residents. A shitty Austin house will cost $300,000 more than the exact same house 30 miles away.

Austin is quickly becoming one of the most expensive cities in the county. Which, by the way, is another reason it's being abandoned. Companies came here on the promise of cheap housing, and house prices in the area tripled in 5 years

So it's super expensive, hot, has shitty traffic, and it's a liberal island trapped in a state run by land developers and fascists.

Monorail! It put Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook on the map!

charge a few bucks a ride and it pays for itself. Or make it totally free and see what happens when your city suddenly has total freedom of movement.

This NEVER happens. It is always subsidized and traffic is still a mess.

People moved there because anything inside 128 costs a million dollars. I have friends with pretty good jobs who can't hope to afford to live closer to Boston. MA has their "MBTA Communities" upzoning push but it doesn't go far enough, IMO. We need to eliminate single family zoning entirely.

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You have bad traffic but your average commute times are actually kind of nominal. The MARTA could be better You're like right on that line where you have bad traffic but your public transportation hasn't been made effective yet.

You should check out San Francisco's problems. Half their commuters are coming ovary major bridge from Oakland or elsewhere in California and the city itself is a peninsula so everyone's squeezed coming up from the south. And the bart is hands down awful

Cities can work fine without cars if they have viable alternatives

I know you mentioned this but it bears repeating, because so many of the "fuck cars" people don't bother to prioritize investing in alternatives, just making driving more miserable.

If you make car commutes twice as long but offer trains, you get more people on trains.

If you make car commutes twice as long but don't offer any alternatives, you just have the same people sitting in cars for twice as long.

Folding bikes, sure. Or you get a bikeshare sub. Regular bikes aren't allowed on trains because they're too crowded.

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