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[–] 85 points 3 years ago (4 children)

ITT, bunch of people who have never used Sync for Reddit whining about Sync Ultra and the app having ads. πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    The ads through me for a sec, but then I realized this wasn't the Dev or Pro version.

    I'll end up subscribing at some point, but I do wish there was a one time option like last time. Not really interested in the cloud backups and all that, just the ad free experience.

    Edit: Spoke too soon. Looks like there wil be a one time option at some point in addition to a version with no ads. Looking forward to it.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Just pushed beta 25 that adds a one time option.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you've done over the years!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    $115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the "lifetime" option 13 months ago

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I haven't seen any ads yet. Where are they

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I used sync for reddit for a decade. No way in hell I'm paying $20 for the ad-free upgrade. Explain how lemmy which is months old and a minute fraction of the size of reddit, should cost me more to browse ad-free than reddit? It's mind boggling that we're in the age where asking $20 for a 3rd party social media app is being defended as reasonable.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    you aren't paying for volume of content available, that would only make sense if you were subscribing directly to reddit or lemmy as you would with netflix, disney etc

    revenue goes to the app dev, and sync for lemmy and sync for reddit have i would presume, identical development and maintenance costs.

    your logic is like saying that fuel should be cheaper for a 1.4l mini than it is for a ferrari

    That said, I do think Β£18.99 lifetime just to remove ads is a bit extreme, its certainly not affordable for me. That's more than a year of Ultra without the extra features. I think sweetspot for "pro" edition that has no ads certainly would have been sub Β£10, especially when im gonna be a large volume of users have dns that removes ads anyway and really the "pro" is just a "one time donation" kinda thing

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, I wasn't seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    My issue with lemmy being young isn't the lack of content, it's that he's selling a "lifetime" option on something that's barely been around long enough to know we'll keep using it/it'll be around in a year.

    I completely agree that it should be sub $10.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Uhm, then don't pay? No one is forcing you to pay or even use Sync. I don't think it's worth it for me too at this moment to pay that much for an app to browse Lemmy (because in my opinion it's still riding the hype train, it's long term future is still to be determined). So I accept that I will have to see ads.

    Sync is an app by a private developer, who has his own rights to set the price for something he produced. He can put the price at 100€ and still no one has the right to whine about it. If you think it's not worth it, then don't buy it. It's not like you need this to survive.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Yah no shit I didn't say I'm starving bc of him. I asked for someone to make it make sense. Which you haven't, instead you went with "wah wah go use something else then" - really constructive conversation, why raise complaints about things that could be better? Why try to push for improvements in something you like/care about, that's what you're arguing for me to do. "Pay for it or shut up", how about I don't pay, and instead voice my opinion on the Internet like the sites designed for.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not defending Sync (I don't even use it, I'm more of a Slide/Infinity guy; I'm just here to see how other Reddit app ports are doing), but Lemmy is not "months old". It's been a thing since early 2019, the recent Reddit drama just gave it a massive push bringing its userbase from negligible to tiny.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago*
    1. It's perfectly fine to use the app and only pay when you feel like it, say you feel when the Fediverse grows to be fun enough. Or alternatively never pay and just use the free version. Or use something like Voyager / wefwef which is a fantastic app in its own right. You have the choice.

    2. $20 really isn't a lot when it's an app you use everyday. If you don't spend enough time on Lemmy then yes, it may not make sense to buy but if you do it's really a no-brainer.

    Also I would argue Apple / Google's whole app store pricing model when it first started out really devalued good software. $1.99 for a lifetime support of an app? Come on. $20 is reasonable.

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  • [+] -32 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It's not about the app. It has nothing to do with the app itself to be fair. It's the fact to have ads. Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy.

    People are fine to pay for the app. Money isn't the issue either. The dev should not assume Lemmy is a new Reddit. It's different with different spirit and philosophy. This point has to be taken in consideration.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That's the beauty of have a multitude of different apps. You choose the one that feels right for you. Much like how you can choose another Lemmy instance.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Yes, sure, you can choose whatever you want. It doesn't make my opinion wrong. It's not in the philosophy of the fediverse. People can use it with an ads tracked app of they want. I respect it.

    It's a hard no for me and I will express it. It could be a hard yes if they will be a one time payment version without free ads base one.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong."

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes.

    My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine.

    As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy

    Says who? I'm just curious who decides what Lemmy's philosophy is. Does that philosophy extend across all instances or only specific ones? Or is it baked into the source code somehow?

    Personally I think ads are alright. But that's just my philosophy.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    You can choose whatever app fits you. That is the power of choice. Some of us are really ok with non intrusive ads or paying for the app. He said that one time payment for removing ads will come soon.

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