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[β] thimantha@lemmy.world 85 points 3 years ago (4 children) ITT, bunch of people who have never used Sync for Reddit whining about Sync Ultra and the app having ads. π€¦π»ββοΈ permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) The ads through me for a sec, but then I realized this wasn't the Dev or Pro version. I'll end up subscribing at some point, but I do wish there was a one time option like last time. Not really interested in the cloud backups and all that, just the ad free experience. Edit: Spoke too soon. Looks like there wil be a one time option at some point in addition to a version with no ads. Looking forward to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 40 points 3 years ago (8 children) Just pushed beta 25 that adds a one time option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [β] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 years ago A wise decision. See everyone, it's this level of responsiveness and communication that's led many of us to want to pay for this app. permalink fedilink source parent [β] oeightsix@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 years ago Thanks mate, your work is deeply appreciated the world over. permalink fedilink source parent [β] envious92@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does that work if I already purchased the yearly model? Can I transfer the yearly to the ad-free one time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Email me your order number and I'll help here permalink fedilink source parent [β] waldyrious@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you've done over the years! permalink fedilink source parent [β] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 years ago Awesome π permalink fedilink source parent [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) $115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the "lifetime" option 13 months ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Friendliestfire@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's for ultra bruv which includes his own server features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Still more than triple the price for the same thing permalink fedilink source parent [+] can@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] Michal@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I haven't seen any ads yet. Where are they permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] clgoh@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) After a while, I realized i was not seeing ads because I use adguard DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I am using the VPN (I think DNS too) and I get an empty box between posts saying "sponsored content" or something like that permalink fedilink source parent [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) I used sync for reddit for a decade. No way in hell I'm paying $20 for the ad-free upgrade. Explain how lemmy which is months old and a minute fraction of the size of reddit, should cost me more to browse ad-free than reddit? It's mind boggling that we're in the age where asking $20 for a 3rd party social media app is being defended as reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] dimspace@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) you aren't paying for volume of content available, that would only make sense if you were subscribing directly to reddit or lemmy as you would with netflix, disney etc revenue goes to the app dev, and sync for lemmy and sync for reddit have i would presume, identical development and maintenance costs. your logic is like saying that fuel should be cheaper for a 1.4l mini than it is for a ferrari That said, I do think Β£18.99 lifetime just to remove ads is a bit extreme, its certainly not affordable for me. That's more than a year of Ultra without the extra features. I think sweetspot for "pro" edition that has no ads certainly would have been sub Β£10, especially when im gonna be a large volume of users have dns that removes ads anyway and really the "pro" is just a "one time donation" kinda thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] zodlmee@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Yeah, I wasn't seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My issue with lemmy being young isn't the lack of content, it's that he's selling a "lifetime" option on something that's barely been around long enough to know we'll keep using it/it'll be around in a year. I completely agree that it should be sub $10. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Uhm, then don't pay? No one is forcing you to pay or even use Sync. I don't think it's worth it for me too at this moment to pay that much for an app to browse Lemmy (because in my opinion it's still riding the hype train, it's long term future is still to be determined). So I accept that I will have to see ads. Sync is an app by a private developer, who has his own rights to set the price for something he produced. He can put the price at 100β¬ and still no one has the right to whine about it. If you think it's not worth it, then don't buy it. It's not like you need this to survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Yah no shit I didn't say I'm starving bc of him. I asked for someone to make it make sense. Which you haven't, instead you went with "wah wah go use something else then" - really constructive conversation, why raise complaints about things that could be better? Why try to push for improvements in something you like/care about, that's what you're arguing for me to do. "Pay for it or shut up", how about I don't pay, and instead voice my opinion on the Internet like the sites designed for. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Markaos@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I'm not defending Sync (I don't even use it, I'm more of a Slide/Infinity guy; I'm just here to see how other Reddit app ports are doing), but Lemmy is not "months old". It's been a thing since early 2019, the recent Reddit drama just gave it a massive push bringing its userbase from negligible to tiny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Right yah I felt like that was probably the case when I was typing that honestly, that's my bad, I guess I should've said only really started taking off months ago, and is still rather small. permalink fedilink source parent [β] habanhero@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 years ago* It's perfectly fine to use the app and only pay when you feel like it, say you feel when the Fediverse grows to be fun enough. Or alternatively never pay and just use the free version. Or use something like Voyager / wefwef which is a fantastic app in its own right. You have the choice. $20 really isn't a lot when it's an app you use everyday. If you don't spend enough time on Lemmy then yes, it may not make sense to buy but if you do it's really a no-brainer. Also I would argue Apple / Google's whole app store pricing model when it first started out really devalued good software. $1.99 for a lifetime support of an app? Come on. $20 is reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent [+] moitoi@feddit.de -32 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's not about the app. It has nothing to do with the app itself to be fair. It's the fact to have ads. Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy. People are fine to pay for the app. Money isn't the issue either. The dev should not assume Lemmy is a new Reddit. It's different with different spirit and philosophy. This point has to be taken in consideration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's the beauty of have a multitude of different apps. You choose the one that feels right for you. Much like how you can choose another Lemmy instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 3 years ago (5 children) Yes, sure, you can choose whatever you want. It doesn't make my opinion wrong. It's not in the philosophy of the fediverse. People can use it with an ads tracked app of they want. I respect it. It's a hard no for me and I will express it. It could be a hard yes if they will be a one time payment version without free ads base one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Pillarist@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago The dev said there already will be. I hope you'll support a hard working, singular dev who puts a lot of work into an app and engages with its users like LJD. permalink fedilink source parent [β] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine. As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid. permalink fedilink source parent [β] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 years ago The Dev has just announced he's pushed beta version 25 that adds a one time payment option. permalink fedilink source parent [β] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago One time payment update was just pushed out! permalink fedilink source parent [β] ahal@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy Says who? I'm just curious who decides what Lemmy's philosophy is. Does that philosophy extend across all instances or only specific ones? Or is it baked into the source code somehow? Personally I think ads are alright. But that's just my philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] faintedheart@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago You can choose whatever app fits you. That is the power of choice. Some of us are really ok with non intrusive ads or paying for the app. He said that one time payment for removing ads will come soon. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) The ads through me for a sec, but then I realized this wasn't the Dev or Pro version. I'll end up subscribing at some point, but I do wish there was a one time option like last time. Not really interested in the cloud backups and all that, just the ad free experience. Edit: Spoke too soon. Looks like there wil be a one time option at some point in addition to a version with no ads. Looking forward to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 40 points 3 years ago (8 children) Just pushed beta 25 that adds a one time option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [β] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 years ago A wise decision. See everyone, it's this level of responsiveness and communication that's led many of us to want to pay for this app. permalink fedilink source parent [β] oeightsix@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 years ago Thanks mate, your work is deeply appreciated the world over. permalink fedilink source parent [β] envious92@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does that work if I already purchased the yearly model? Can I transfer the yearly to the ad-free one time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Email me your order number and I'll help here permalink fedilink source parent [β] waldyrious@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you've done over the years! permalink fedilink source parent [β] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 years ago Awesome π permalink fedilink source parent [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) $115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the "lifetime" option 13 months ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Friendliestfire@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's for ultra bruv which includes his own server features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Still more than triple the price for the same thing permalink fedilink source parent [+] can@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 40 points 3 years ago (8 children) Just pushed beta 25 that adds a one time option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [β] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 years ago A wise decision. See everyone, it's this level of responsiveness and communication that's led many of us to want to pay for this app. permalink fedilink source parent [β] oeightsix@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 years ago Thanks mate, your work is deeply appreciated the world over. permalink fedilink source parent [β] envious92@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does that work if I already purchased the yearly model? Can I transfer the yearly to the ad-free one time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Email me your order number and I'll help here permalink fedilink source parent [β] waldyrious@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you've done over the years! permalink fedilink source parent [β] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 years ago Awesome π permalink fedilink source parent [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) $115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the "lifetime" option 13 months ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Friendliestfire@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's for ultra bruv which includes his own server features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Still more than triple the price for the same thing permalink fedilink source parent [+] can@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 years ago A wise decision. See everyone, it's this level of responsiveness and communication that's led many of us to want to pay for this app. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] oeightsix@lemmy.nz 7 points 3 years ago Thanks mate, your work is deeply appreciated the world over. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] envious92@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does that work if I already purchased the yearly model? Can I transfer the yearly to the ad-free one time? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Email me your order number and I'll help here permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ljdawson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Email me your order number and I'll help here permalink fedilink source parent
[β] waldyrious@lemm.ee 4 points 3 years ago You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you've done over the years! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DM_Gold@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jigsaw250@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Damn it. Thanks for the heads up anyway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) $115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the "lifetime" option 13 months ago permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Friendliestfire@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's for ultra bruv which includes his own server features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Still more than triple the price for the same thing permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Friendliestfire@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) That's for ultra bruv which includes his own server features permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Still more than triple the price for the same thing permalink fedilink source parent
[β] scarrtt@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) Still more than triple the price for the same thing permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Michal@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I haven't seen any ads yet. Where are they permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] clgoh@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) After a while, I realized i was not seeing ads because I use adguard DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I am using the VPN (I think DNS too) and I get an empty box between posts saying "sponsored content" or something like that permalink fedilink source parent
[β] clgoh@lemmy.world 15 points 3 years ago* (1 child) After a while, I realized i was not seeing ads because I use adguard DNS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I am using the VPN (I think DNS too) and I get an empty box between posts saying "sponsored content" or something like that permalink fedilink source parent
[β] c0mplexx@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I am using the VPN (I think DNS too) and I get an empty box between posts saying "sponsored content" or something like that permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (4 children) I used sync for reddit for a decade. No way in hell I'm paying $20 for the ad-free upgrade. Explain how lemmy which is months old and a minute fraction of the size of reddit, should cost me more to browse ad-free than reddit? It's mind boggling that we're in the age where asking $20 for a 3rd party social media app is being defended as reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] dimspace@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) you aren't paying for volume of content available, that would only make sense if you were subscribing directly to reddit or lemmy as you would with netflix, disney etc revenue goes to the app dev, and sync for lemmy and sync for reddit have i would presume, identical development and maintenance costs. your logic is like saying that fuel should be cheaper for a 1.4l mini than it is for a ferrari That said, I do think Β£18.99 lifetime just to remove ads is a bit extreme, its certainly not affordable for me. That's more than a year of Ultra without the extra features. I think sweetspot for "pro" edition that has no ads certainly would have been sub Β£10, especially when im gonna be a large volume of users have dns that removes ads anyway and really the "pro" is just a "one time donation" kinda thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] zodlmee@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Yeah, I wasn't seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My issue with lemmy being young isn't the lack of content, it's that he's selling a "lifetime" option on something that's barely been around long enough to know we'll keep using it/it'll be around in a year. I completely agree that it should be sub $10. permalink fedilink source parent [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Uhm, then don't pay? No one is forcing you to pay or even use Sync. I don't think it's worth it for me too at this moment to pay that much for an app to browse Lemmy (because in my opinion it's still riding the hype train, it's long term future is still to be determined). So I accept that I will have to see ads. Sync is an app by a private developer, who has his own rights to set the price for something he produced. He can put the price at 100β¬ and still no one has the right to whine about it. If you think it's not worth it, then don't buy it. It's not like you need this to survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Yah no shit I didn't say I'm starving bc of him. I asked for someone to make it make sense. Which you haven't, instead you went with "wah wah go use something else then" - really constructive conversation, why raise complaints about things that could be better? Why try to push for improvements in something you like/care about, that's what you're arguing for me to do. "Pay for it or shut up", how about I don't pay, and instead voice my opinion on the Internet like the sites designed for. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Markaos@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I'm not defending Sync (I don't even use it, I'm more of a Slide/Infinity guy; I'm just here to see how other Reddit app ports are doing), but Lemmy is not "months old". It's been a thing since early 2019, the recent Reddit drama just gave it a massive push bringing its userbase from negligible to tiny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Right yah I felt like that was probably the case when I was typing that honestly, that's my bad, I guess I should've said only really started taking off months ago, and is still rather small. permalink fedilink source parent [β] habanhero@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 years ago* It's perfectly fine to use the app and only pay when you feel like it, say you feel when the Fediverse grows to be fun enough. Or alternatively never pay and just use the free version. Or use something like Voyager / wefwef which is a fantastic app in its own right. You have the choice. $20 really isn't a lot when it's an app you use everyday. If you don't spend enough time on Lemmy then yes, it may not make sense to buy but if you do it's really a no-brainer. Also I would argue Apple / Google's whole app store pricing model when it first started out really devalued good software. $1.99 for a lifetime support of an app? Come on. $20 is reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dimspace@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) you aren't paying for volume of content available, that would only make sense if you were subscribing directly to reddit or lemmy as you would with netflix, disney etc revenue goes to the app dev, and sync for lemmy and sync for reddit have i would presume, identical development and maintenance costs. your logic is like saying that fuel should be cheaper for a 1.4l mini than it is for a ferrari That said, I do think Β£18.99 lifetime just to remove ads is a bit extreme, its certainly not affordable for me. That's more than a year of Ultra without the extra features. I think sweetspot for "pro" edition that has no ads certainly would have been sub Β£10, especially when im gonna be a large volume of users have dns that removes ads anyway and really the "pro" is just a "one time donation" kinda thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] zodlmee@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Yeah, I wasn't seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model. permalink fedilink source parent [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My issue with lemmy being young isn't the lack of content, it's that he's selling a "lifetime" option on something that's barely been around long enough to know we'll keep using it/it'll be around in a year. I completely agree that it should be sub $10. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] zodlmee@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Yeah, I wasn't seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago My issue with lemmy being young isn't the lack of content, it's that he's selling a "lifetime" option on something that's barely been around long enough to know we'll keep using it/it'll be around in a year. I completely agree that it should be sub $10. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) Uhm, then don't pay? No one is forcing you to pay or even use Sync. I don't think it's worth it for me too at this moment to pay that much for an app to browse Lemmy (because in my opinion it's still riding the hype train, it's long term future is still to be determined). So I accept that I will have to see ads. Sync is an app by a private developer, who has his own rights to set the price for something he produced. He can put the price at 100β¬ and still no one has the right to whine about it. If you think it's not worth it, then don't buy it. It's not like you need this to survive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Yah no shit I didn't say I'm starving bc of him. I asked for someone to make it make sense. Which you haven't, instead you went with "wah wah go use something else then" - really constructive conversation, why raise complaints about things that could be better? Why try to push for improvements in something you like/care about, that's what you're arguing for me to do. "Pay for it or shut up", how about I don't pay, and instead voice my opinion on the Internet like the sites designed for. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Yah no shit I didn't say I'm starving bc of him. I asked for someone to make it make sense. Which you haven't, instead you went with "wah wah go use something else then" - really constructive conversation, why raise complaints about things that could be better? Why try to push for improvements in something you like/care about, that's what you're arguing for me to do. "Pay for it or shut up", how about I don't pay, and instead voice my opinion on the Internet like the sites designed for. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Markaos@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I'm not defending Sync (I don't even use it, I'm more of a Slide/Infinity guy; I'm just here to see how other Reddit app ports are doing), but Lemmy is not "months old". It's been a thing since early 2019, the recent Reddit drama just gave it a massive push bringing its userbase from negligible to tiny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Right yah I felt like that was probably the case when I was typing that honestly, that's my bad, I guess I should've said only really started taking off months ago, and is still rather small. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] GroggyGuava@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Right yah I felt like that was probably the case when I was typing that honestly, that's my bad, I guess I should've said only really started taking off months ago, and is still rather small. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] habanhero@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 years ago* It's perfectly fine to use the app and only pay when you feel like it, say you feel when the Fediverse grows to be fun enough. Or alternatively never pay and just use the free version. Or use something like Voyager / wefwef which is a fantastic app in its own right. You have the choice. $20 really isn't a lot when it's an app you use everyday. If you don't spend enough time on Lemmy then yes, it may not make sense to buy but if you do it's really a no-brainer. Also I would argue Apple / Google's whole app store pricing model when it first started out really devalued good software. $1.99 for a lifetime support of an app? Come on. $20 is reasonable. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] moitoi@feddit.de -32 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's not about the app. It has nothing to do with the app itself to be fair. It's the fact to have ads. Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy. People are fine to pay for the app. Money isn't the issue either. The dev should not assume Lemmy is a new Reddit. It's different with different spirit and philosophy. This point has to be taken in consideration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's the beauty of have a multitude of different apps. You choose the one that feels right for you. Much like how you can choose another Lemmy instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 3 years ago (5 children) Yes, sure, you can choose whatever you want. It doesn't make my opinion wrong. It's not in the philosophy of the fediverse. People can use it with an ads tracked app of they want. I respect it. It's a hard no for me and I will express it. It could be a hard yes if they will be a one time payment version without free ads base one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Pillarist@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago The dev said there already will be. I hope you'll support a hard working, singular dev who puts a lot of work into an app and engages with its users like LJD. permalink fedilink source parent [β] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine. As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid. permalink fedilink source parent [β] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 years ago The Dev has just announced he's pushed beta version 25 that adds a one time payment option. permalink fedilink source parent [β] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago One time payment update was just pushed out! permalink fedilink source parent [β] ahal@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy Says who? I'm just curious who decides what Lemmy's philosophy is. Does that philosophy extend across all instances or only specific ones? Or is it baked into the source code somehow? Personally I think ads are alright. But that's just my philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] faintedheart@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago You can choose whatever app fits you. That is the power of choice. Some of us are really ok with non intrusive ads or paying for the app. He said that one time payment for removing ads will come soon. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 28 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's the beauty of have a multitude of different apps. You choose the one that feels right for you. Much like how you can choose another Lemmy instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 3 years ago (5 children) Yes, sure, you can choose whatever you want. It doesn't make my opinion wrong. It's not in the philosophy of the fediverse. People can use it with an ads tracked app of they want. I respect it. It's a hard no for me and I will express it. It could be a hard yes if they will be a one time payment version without free ads base one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Pillarist@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago The dev said there already will be. I hope you'll support a hard working, singular dev who puts a lot of work into an app and engages with its users like LJD. permalink fedilink source parent [β] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine. As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid. permalink fedilink source parent [β] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 years ago The Dev has just announced he's pushed beta version 25 that adds a one time payment option. permalink fedilink source parent [β] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago One time payment update was just pushed out! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 3 years ago (5 children) Yes, sure, you can choose whatever you want. It doesn't make my opinion wrong. It's not in the philosophy of the fediverse. People can use it with an ads tracked app of they want. I respect it. It's a hard no for me and I will express it. It could be a hard yes if they will be a one time payment version without free ads base one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] Pillarist@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago The dev said there already will be. I hope you'll support a hard working, singular dev who puts a lot of work into an app and engages with its users like LJD. permalink fedilink source parent [β] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine. As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid. permalink fedilink source parent [β] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 years ago The Dev has just announced he's pushed beta version 25 that adds a one time payment option. permalink fedilink source parent [β] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago One time payment update was just pushed out! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Pillarist@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago The dev said there already will be. I hope you'll support a hard working, singular dev who puts a lot of work into an app and engages with its users like LJD. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) an opinion cannot be wrong. but it also cannot be right. you make a fair point with what you're saying. the dev is already planning on a single time purchase, but a sub option is definitely not "morally wrong." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] moitoi@feddit.de -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] moitoi@feddit.de -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) It can be morally wrong depending on the person's visions. It's not that this vision is wrong or right. It's a personal one. Nobody did this vision mandatory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago Although I do not agree with your opinion above, but I think your opinion is valid and you don't deserve the downvotes. My opinion is that Sync and Lemmy are two different things with two different philosophies. Yes they are interconnected, but they are both separate entities, and it's not like Sync is built off of Lemmy's source code. The dev should get compensated for the time and resources he put into the source code of Sync, and if ads is a way to contribute to that, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] NotAGoodUser@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago I don't think your opinion is wrong. It's an opinion, and that's fine. As a developer myself, I do understand that the dev wants to be compensated for all the hours he puts in, but I am also aware that we're all using software everyday in many different ways that are made in the free time of many people, without any compensation. Both are valid. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 years ago The Dev has just announced he's pushed beta version 25 that adds a one time payment option. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago One time payment update was just pushed out! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ahal@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago Ads aren't the spirit and the philosophy of Lemmy Says who? I'm just curious who decides what Lemmy's philosophy is. Does that philosophy extend across all instances or only specific ones? Or is it baked into the source code somehow? Personally I think ads are alright. But that's just my philosophy. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] faintedheart@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago You can choose whatever app fits you. That is the power of choice. Some of us are really ok with non intrusive ads or paying for the app. He said that one time payment for removing ads will come soon. permalink fedilink source parent