▲ 492 ▼ Four Passengers Die in Burning Tesla After Electronic Doors Seemingly Won't Open (futurism.com) submitted 2 years ago* by streetfestival@lemmy.ca to c/fuckcars@lemmy.ca 140 comments fedilink hide all child comments This happened in Toronto on October 24th
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (3 children) What? Our new or modern cars are safe as fuck dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are safer for the occupants. With their increased size, increased sound dampening, and reduced visibility, they are more dangerous to those outside of the vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Edit: my view was changed. I was wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm Oh sure, but A LOT of people don't have to worry about that. I go from my house directly the highway for 1 hour before I get to my job. I'd rather be safer on the highway for my 2+ hours of commuting a day than the off chance some random is walking on the highway where he shouldn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm close to 2m tall, and the hoods of the trucks I walk by on my way to work are up to my shoulders, I think things like size aren't really helping. Naturally, maybe 1 of every 10 trucks this size appear to actually be for work. I think a lot of the modern safety improvements are great, but just making every vehicle gigantic is doing a lot of harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. And having automated controls for breaking would be a magnificent leap forward. Unless the government steps in to slow down those products there isn't anything to be done. You can see reform starting in the form of the "Carolina squat" being outlawed in a lot of states to help alleviate some of that pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits. I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Literally everyone should worry about that. Does anybody drop off their children at school? Do they cross the street? Do they travel? Pedestrian hostile cars are an everybody issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Come on. Yes I agree with you but obviously you know that there is nuance to that issue just as others. We aren't talking about gun control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's more to safety than having the biggest or fanciest car. It's road design, rules, speed, training, etc. With the skills of an average American driver you wouldn't get your license in some countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yea! Most of us are fucking horrible at driving. Automated processes for safety make us lazier too. Our road design is pretty well done but the speed/training is fucking atrocious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For now. When the Trump administration is done gutting the NHTSA, not so much. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) They are safer for the occupants. With their increased size, increased sound dampening, and reduced visibility, they are more dangerous to those outside of the vehicle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Edit: my view was changed. I was wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm Oh sure, but A LOT of people don't have to worry about that. I go from my house directly the highway for 1 hour before I get to my job. I'd rather be safer on the highway for my 2+ hours of commuting a day than the off chance some random is walking on the highway where he shouldn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm close to 2m tall, and the hoods of the trucks I walk by on my way to work are up to my shoulders, I think things like size aren't really helping. Naturally, maybe 1 of every 10 trucks this size appear to actually be for work. I think a lot of the modern safety improvements are great, but just making every vehicle gigantic is doing a lot of harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. And having automated controls for breaking would be a magnificent leap forward. Unless the government steps in to slow down those products there isn't anything to be done. You can see reform starting in the form of the "Carolina squat" being outlawed in a lot of states to help alleviate some of that pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits. I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Literally everyone should worry about that. Does anybody drop off their children at school? Do they cross the street? Do they travel? Pedestrian hostile cars are an everybody issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Come on. Yes I agree with you but obviously you know that there is nuance to that issue just as others. We aren't talking about gun control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Edit: my view was changed. I was wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm Oh sure, but A LOT of people don't have to worry about that. I go from my house directly the highway for 1 hour before I get to my job. I'd rather be safer on the highway for my 2+ hours of commuting a day than the off chance some random is walking on the highway where he shouldn't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm close to 2m tall, and the hoods of the trucks I walk by on my way to work are up to my shoulders, I think things like size aren't really helping. Naturally, maybe 1 of every 10 trucks this size appear to actually be for work. I think a lot of the modern safety improvements are great, but just making every vehicle gigantic is doing a lot of harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. And having automated controls for breaking would be a magnificent leap forward. Unless the government steps in to slow down those products there isn't anything to be done. You can see reform starting in the form of the "Carolina squat" being outlawed in a lot of states to help alleviate some of that pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits. I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Literally everyone should worry about that. Does anybody drop off their children at school? Do they cross the street? Do they travel? Pedestrian hostile cars are an everybody issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Come on. Yes I agree with you but obviously you know that there is nuance to that issue just as others. We aren't talking about gun control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm close to 2m tall, and the hoods of the trucks I walk by on my way to work are up to my shoulders, I think things like size aren't really helping. Naturally, maybe 1 of every 10 trucks this size appear to actually be for work. I think a lot of the modern safety improvements are great, but just making every vehicle gigantic is doing a lot of harm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. And having automated controls for breaking would be a magnificent leap forward. Unless the government steps in to slow down those products there isn't anything to be done. You can see reform starting in the form of the "Carolina squat" being outlawed in a lot of states to help alleviate some of that pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits. I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agreed. And having automated controls for breaking would be a magnificent leap forward. Unless the government steps in to slow down those products there isn't anything to be done. You can see reform starting in the form of the "Carolina squat" being outlawed in a lot of states to help alleviate some of that pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits. I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I already think that stock F450s and Ram 3500s shouldn't be road legal, let alone the ones around here with "normal" lift kits. I've never seen a truck with a proud stance like that, that's disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago So I'm on the Eastern Eastern shore and most of the 3500s, and the f350/f450s are work trucks. They're always hauling shit. But I'm bias because I only commute and don't really go out and about. Now the ones that I see that are a problem are the new Silverados /Tahoe/suburban and the F150-F250 line up. And especially the older ones that the kids crank up on stilts. Goofy looking trucks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Literally everyone should worry about that. Does anybody drop off their children at school? Do they cross the street? Do they travel? Pedestrian hostile cars are an everybody issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Come on. Yes I agree with you but obviously you know that there is nuance to that issue just as others. We aren't talking about gun control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Come on. Yes I agree with you but obviously you know that there is nuance to that issue just as others. We aren't talking about gun control. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't really think you've thought about it if you can write that out... Those both are basically equivalent. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Wow. Not often does someone change my view on the Internet through a comment section but damn those are pretty close in reportings. I stand corrected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There's more to safety than having the biggest or fanciest car. It's road design, rules, speed, training, etc. With the skills of an average American driver you wouldn't get your license in some countries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yea! Most of us are fucking horrible at driving. Automated processes for safety make us lazier too. Our road design is pretty well done but the speed/training is fucking atrocious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Yea! Most of us are fucking horrible at driving. Automated processes for safety make us lazier too. Our road design is pretty well done but the speed/training is fucking atrocious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago For now. When the Trump administration is done gutting the NHTSA, not so much. permalink fedilink source parent