▲ 643 ▼ It's a matter of perspective (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world [M] to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 103 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 191 points 2 years ago (2 children) What it feels like having a conversation with conservatives permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) and tankies* permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And liberals (Just trying to be inclusive) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) Once again the anarchists are the only correct group it's like the curse of Nostradamus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) More like the curse of nostradumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) lemmy user DESTROYS the philosophical tendency of anarchism with FACTS and LOGIC and EXTREMELY mediocre WORDPLAY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Are anarchists actually practicing anarchism if they form groups? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Anarchism is when there's one guy alone in the forest." -Mikhail Bakunin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iff they're not hierarchical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But only the specific subset of anarchists that I read about first in my early 20s! All the others are just like those fascists in the Judean People's Front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Eh, most left leaning anarchists are fundamentally correct on the basics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Visstix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago And my axe permalink fedilink source parent [–] paladin3494@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting. I guess it’s about cultural conditioning. Growing up in Scandinavia the “both sides” and subjectivist approach was more common for leftists. Especially the “your terrorist is my freedom fighter”. In contrast rightists and liberals usually insisted on exactly this two-plus-two-is-four rhetoric. As analyzing American discourse from the outside I’m still not sure if the right wingers of my Nordic childhood was right anyway, or if American leftism has regressed horrendously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago If we were talking about the normal version where one perspective does see 4 sides and the other 3, then I'd agree. But right wingers often completely ignore science and facts for what they feel is right - despite loudly claiming the opposite. They're simply wrong about any number of things, from economics to gender studies to climate change, but they insist on their positions because of how they feel on a fundamental level - that all the common-sense folks around them think this way, their preacher thinks this way, and they don't trust anyone they haven't personally encountered long enough to understand. Time and time again, science has disproven explicitly conservative viewpoints, from race biology to Social Darwinism to climate change and so on. But they double down because to change their perspectives risks alienating their peers, or even worse, possibly damning them to Hell. That's why I said what I did. Liberals are a pain in the ass and generally incapable of accomplishing much of value, but at least they typically welcome new data that may contradict a previously-held position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (1 child) and tankies* permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And liberals (Just trying to be inclusive) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) Once again the anarchists are the only correct group it's like the curse of Nostradamus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) More like the curse of nostradumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) lemmy user DESTROYS the philosophical tendency of anarchism with FACTS and LOGIC and EXTREMELY mediocre WORDPLAY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Are anarchists actually practicing anarchism if they form groups? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Anarchism is when there's one guy alone in the forest." -Mikhail Bakunin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iff they're not hierarchical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But only the specific subset of anarchists that I read about first in my early 20s! All the others are just like those fascists in the Judean People's Front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Eh, most left leaning anarchists are fundamentally correct on the basics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Visstix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago And my axe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) And liberals (Just trying to be inclusive) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) Once again the anarchists are the only correct group it's like the curse of Nostradamus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) More like the curse of nostradumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) lemmy user DESTROYS the philosophical tendency of anarchism with FACTS and LOGIC and EXTREMELY mediocre WORDPLAY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Are anarchists actually practicing anarchism if they form groups? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Anarchism is when there's one guy alone in the forest." -Mikhail Bakunin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iff they're not hierarchical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But only the specific subset of anarchists that I read about first in my early 20s! All the others are just like those fascists in the Judean People's Front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Eh, most left leaning anarchists are fundamentally correct on the basics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Visstix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago And my axe permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) Once again the anarchists are the only correct group it's like the curse of Nostradamus permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) More like the curse of nostradumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) lemmy user DESTROYS the philosophical tendency of anarchism with FACTS and LOGIC and EXTREMELY mediocre WORDPLAY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Are anarchists actually practicing anarchism if they form groups? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Anarchism is when there's one guy alone in the forest." -Mikhail Bakunin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iff they're not hierarchical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But only the specific subset of anarchists that I read about first in my early 20s! All the others are just like those fascists in the Judean People's Front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Eh, most left leaning anarchists are fundamentally correct on the basics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) More like the curse of nostradumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) lemmy user DESTROYS the philosophical tendency of anarchism with FACTS and LOGIC and EXTREMELY mediocre WORDPLAY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 child) lemmy user DESTROYS the philosophical tendency of anarchism with FACTS and LOGIC and EXTREMELY mediocre WORDPLAY permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I disagree! That wordplay is nowhere near good enough to be considered mediocre permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I was considering editing my comment to say subpar but I decided I didn't care that much permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) Are anarchists actually practicing anarchism if they form groups? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Anarchism is when there's one guy alone in the forest." -Mikhail Bakunin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iff they're not hierarchical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Anarchism is when there's one guy alone in the forest." -Mikhail Bakunin permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did Mikhail Bakunin think that women could not be anarchists? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) Of course not, if there were women in the forest they would be clearly accompanied by the Internet Argument Bear and therefore it wouldn't be anarchism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) I thought the woman might be busy having three kids with one of Bakunin's disciples while still married to Bakunin. Dude lived an interesting life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) People is people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Truer words have never been spoken. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iff they're not hierarchical permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Iffs in the wild make me happy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Are "Iffs" a thing? I've been missing out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) iff is the shorthand for "if and only if". If you said "if it is a horse it has hooves" you can infer "all horses have hooves" but not that "all hooved creatures are horses". Otoh if you said "iff a polygon has 3 sides, it is a triangle" you can infer that all polygons that have 3 sides are triangles and that there are no other ways to make triangles. edit: This was typed by sleep deprived me, I tried to fix it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent [+] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool, TIL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Omg I have no clue how you understood anything from my previous comment. It was such a mess lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Well I mostly was already familiar with "if and only if" terminology from some math class many years ago. So once you said iff stands for "if and only if" I didn't really look too close at the rest of your comment because I felt like I already understood. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But only the specific subset of anarchists that I read about first in my early 20s! All the others are just like those fascists in the Judean People's Front! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Eh, most left leaning anarchists are fundamentally correct on the basics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Eh, most left leaning anarchists are fundamentally correct on the basics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paladin3494@feddit.dk 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Interesting. I guess it’s about cultural conditioning. Growing up in Scandinavia the “both sides” and subjectivist approach was more common for leftists. Especially the “your terrorist is my freedom fighter”. In contrast rightists and liberals usually insisted on exactly this two-plus-two-is-four rhetoric. As analyzing American discourse from the outside I’m still not sure if the right wingers of my Nordic childhood was right anyway, or if American leftism has regressed horrendously permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago If we were talking about the normal version where one perspective does see 4 sides and the other 3, then I'd agree. But right wingers often completely ignore science and facts for what they feel is right - despite loudly claiming the opposite. They're simply wrong about any number of things, from economics to gender studies to climate change, but they insist on their positions because of how they feel on a fundamental level - that all the common-sense folks around them think this way, their preacher thinks this way, and they don't trust anyone they haven't personally encountered long enough to understand. Time and time again, science has disproven explicitly conservative viewpoints, from race biology to Social Darwinism to climate change and so on. But they double down because to change their perspectives risks alienating their peers, or even worse, possibly damning them to Hell. That's why I said what I did. Liberals are a pain in the ass and generally incapable of accomplishing much of value, but at least they typically welcome new data that may contradict a previously-held position. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago If we were talking about the normal version where one perspective does see 4 sides and the other 3, then I'd agree. But right wingers often completely ignore science and facts for what they feel is right - despite loudly claiming the opposite. They're simply wrong about any number of things, from economics to gender studies to climate change, but they insist on their positions because of how they feel on a fundamental level - that all the common-sense folks around them think this way, their preacher thinks this way, and they don't trust anyone they haven't personally encountered long enough to understand. Time and time again, science has disproven explicitly conservative viewpoints, from race biology to Social Darwinism to climate change and so on. But they double down because to change their perspectives risks alienating their peers, or even worse, possibly damning them to Hell. That's why I said what I did. Liberals are a pain in the ass and generally incapable of accomplishing much of value, but at least they typically welcome new data that may contradict a previously-held position. permalink fedilink source parent