▲ 195 ▼ Mystery creator of Bitcoin identified, new HBO documentary claims (www.politico.eu) submitted 2 years ago* by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments Intriguingly, as the date for the airing of the documentary has drawn near, a number of high-value wallets from the "Satoshi era" have become active for the first time since 2009.
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 114 points 2 years ago (4 children) extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Not really, all it requires is someone to produce a signed message with one of Satoshi's private keys, which can be easily verified with the public addresses on the blockchain. Whoever produced that message can be proven to possess that private key. Nothing short of that would be believable by the crypto nerds. If we presume that Satoshi understood that Bitcoin may be valuable one day and kept the keys private, that would mean that the signer really is Satoshi, or one of his associates or heirs Satoshi trusted wih access. Even if that person wasn't actually Satoshi, their word on who it is would be considered authoritative. Unless it's Craig. Fuck that guy. Nobody believes him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungle@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is the extraordinary evidence being referenced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, because it's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) "Extraordinary" means outside the realm of ordinary. Signing a message is very ordinary EDIT: Sorry I ment to say: saying "I own a key" is ordinary, and signing a message is the ordinary way to prove you own the key permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) "With great claims come great responsibility" That guy from Spiderman, probably permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) This guy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah, that's the guy, I think. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hate how this phrase has been abused so much. There's nothing particularly extraordinary here--we're not talking about bigfoot or aliens--and the whole point of a documentary like this is to lay out evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Baaahb@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Ordinary claims! permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Most people do not know who Satoshi is. permalink fedilink source parent [+] yesman@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago Where is the extraordinary claim? Pigs have been unmasking bitcoin owners for years. And the tools they use wouldn't be out of reach for an amateur detective or journalist. There are laws and regulations to keep people out of your Visa statement, but the bitcoin ledger is pubic for anybody who cares to look. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Not really, all it requires is someone to produce a signed message with one of Satoshi's private keys, which can be easily verified with the public addresses on the blockchain. Whoever produced that message can be proven to possess that private key. Nothing short of that would be believable by the crypto nerds. If we presume that Satoshi understood that Bitcoin may be valuable one day and kept the keys private, that would mean that the signer really is Satoshi, or one of his associates or heirs Satoshi trusted wih access. Even if that person wasn't actually Satoshi, their word on who it is would be considered authoritative. Unless it's Craig. Fuck that guy. Nobody believes him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungle@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is the extraordinary evidence being referenced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, because it's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) "Extraordinary" means outside the realm of ordinary. Signing a message is very ordinary EDIT: Sorry I ment to say: saying "I own a key" is ordinary, and signing a message is the ordinary way to prove you own the key permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jungle@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (1 child) That is the extraordinary evidence being referenced. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, because it's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) "Extraordinary" means outside the realm of ordinary. Signing a message is very ordinary EDIT: Sorry I ment to say: saying "I own a key" is ordinary, and signing a message is the ordinary way to prove you own the key permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ordinary claims require ordinary evidence, then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jungle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, because it's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) "Extraordinary" means outside the realm of ordinary. Signing a message is very ordinary EDIT: Sorry I ment to say: saying "I own a key" is ordinary, and signing a message is the ordinary way to prove you own the key permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jungle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, because it's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) "Extraordinary" means outside the realm of ordinary. Signing a message is very ordinary EDIT: Sorry I ment to say: saying "I own a key" is ordinary, and signing a message is the ordinary way to prove you own the key permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) "Extraordinary" means outside the realm of ordinary. Signing a message is very ordinary EDIT: Sorry I ment to say: saying "I own a key" is ordinary, and signing a message is the ordinary way to prove you own the key permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] suigenerix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Sure, anyone can sign with a key. Having THE key is the extraordinary part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jungle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* Saying you know who Satoshi is, that's the claim, and that's an extraordinary claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) "With great claims come great responsibility" That guy from Spiderman, probably permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) This guy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah, that's the guy, I think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) This guy? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah, that's the guy, I think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah, that's the guy, I think. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) I hate how this phrase has been abused so much. There's nothing particularly extraordinary here--we're not talking about bigfoot or aliens--and the whole point of a documentary like this is to lay out evidence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Baaahb@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago Ordinary claims! permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Most people do not know who Satoshi is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowsuit2654@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago Most people do not know who Satoshi is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] yesman@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago Where is the extraordinary claim? Pigs have been unmasking bitcoin owners for years. And the tools they use wouldn't be out of reach for an amateur detective or journalist. There are laws and regulations to keep people out of your Visa statement, but the bitcoin ledger is pubic for anybody who cares to look. permalink fedilink source parent