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NATO apologism (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by bigboismith@lemmy.world to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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Incase anyone tells you that lemmy.ml is not a tankie instance.

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[–] micl@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

…what does the ml stand for?

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Marxism Leninism

They are the original Lemmy devs which is why I joined there. Horrible mistake, reactionary idiots who project their insecurity on others while thinking that they are the only ones who figured out the secret sauce. Pretty much exactly sovereign citizen level quackery.

look up the word “tankies” to get an idea

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[–] micl@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Ah, I see

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

To be fair, how do westerners not treat capitalism and democracy with exactly the same weight? I think both sides would have good reason to argue that neither side has figured out the secret sauce as you say.

Not a huge stretch to think both the US and Russia treat their citizens poorly, and neither is a model for the rest of the world.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Because while both are shit, under capitalism I can at least say it's shit without fear of incarceration or reeducation.

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[–] fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Russia is also capitalist, and I think you meant to say "democracy" instead of "capitalism" there since authoritarian capitalism is definitely a thing (see Russia and China).

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[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago

Unless you're a whistleblower

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[–] Specal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What has capitalism got to do with freedom of speech?

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

What does Stalin have to do with freedom of speech, because tankies support authocrats and dictators worldwide, but especially are fans of Stalin.

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[–] Specal@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

What you talking about bossman?

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[+] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I think the pedantry is warranted. A lot of people like to conflate capitalism and democracy.

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[–] Specal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Alot of people also confuse freedom with capitalism and democracy. The propaganda runs deep

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[+] vxx@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago*

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[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Area code for Mali… and I assume shorthand for Marxist Leninist.

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[–] micl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I see, thanks

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