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Company creates "solution" to address school "vaping incidents". (lemmy.ml)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Some of the LinkedIn Responses are direct and on-point, and also hilariously/depressingly based depending on how you look at it:

EDIT: In hindsight, I think I should've looked into posting this in a different community.. It's closer to a silly "innovation".. soo.. is this considered FUD? I also don't support smoking or vaping, especially among kids. Original title had "privacy-violating" before the "solution".

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[–] -4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

.... Do you think reading a sensor and then accurately determining when the sensor data meets a threshold is the same as displaying static text? Kind of an exaggeration

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    In all likelihood calling manufacturer's API to read the value then compare to a compile-time constant? It's a notification hello-world merged with display-a-list hello world and manufacturer's reading-sensor-values hello world. Yes I do think it's borderline trivial

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  • [+] -19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Congratulations you're clearly an amazing developer if you have to talk about this so weirdly

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I do not claim to be amazing, and it's a simple fact that many basic examples/tutorials are named with hello world (and pretty easy to search for that way). A quick Google pulls up e.g. “Hello World!” of push notifications, Problems with simple "hello world" of ListView in Android

    And of course I'm also explicitly using Hello World to reference the original comment

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah what I think is weird is that you make a bunch of assumptions about how the app is built. Experienced developers imo know that things are unexpectedly difficult all the time. Even when they are supposed to be as simple as you're assuming here.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Absolutely I am making a bunch of assumptions. Following the tried and true Keep It Simple Stupid approach. Because there is no indication given that any more complexity is required, and keeping complexity to a minimum is key to efficient development. If there was anything actually technically impressive (or at least technically impressive sounding) about what they did, I trust they would have mentioned it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ok but this is very simple. Everyone can set up something like this using home assistant and a few sensors connected up to it

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Everyone can write software? I'm fucked then... Guess I'll be homeless now

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    set up != write software

    From the little I played with Arduino's IoT platform, I honestly believe that if there is a compatible sensor that can detect vape smoke, almost anyone could get a simple version up and running. It was a very simple and largely automated setup if all you want is to get the sensor output to the portal and then link it to a UI element.

    Of course gluing together this software is more complex than that, but it's no grand feat either.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago

    No one said it was a grand feat. I said it was quite a bit more than hello world which it obviously is. Even if it's only setup which we've no reason to think unless you think most people who claim to have written apps are lying

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Vape “detectors” are the latest off-the-shelf scam product sold to well-meaning but technically clueless school administrators. They don’t work at all but they have a solid sales pitch. This tv app isn’t doing anything but forwarding a notification provided by the manufacturer of the “detection “ device.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    That's not what the post is about, it's entirely about the android TV app. I assume they already built the functionally to generate the alarm signal (since it's the entire raison d'etre for the company based on the name).

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