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Reddit beats film industry, won’t have to identify users who admitted torrenting (arstechnica.com)
submitted 3 years ago by [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Reddit beats film industry, won’t have to identify users who admitted torrenting::Court quashes subpoena for names of users who talked torrenting in 2011 thread.

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[–] 47 points 3 years ago (5 children)

Now the question is could lemmy instances resist such subpoenas in courts, especially those falling under US or EU jurisdiction ?

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Doubt it. Most Lemmy instances are run by one guy on a spare PC. They're not set up to deal with legal requests, versus the police just barging in and taking the PC, while all the neighbours look on and assume you're a paedo.

    While there doesn't seem to be an IP address field in the Lemmy schema, they could always get it out of the logs. There is an email address field, but I think that's only used for initial signup, verification and resetting your password, so if you used a temporary one they'd have nothing to give.

    I don't know what the film industry would even do with the info if Reddit gave it to them. Likely just more bluster to deter casual pirates into thinking there are consequences to downloading the odd movie.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    So if I used a temporary email I cannot change my password anymore? I mean changing password needs email verification after logging into the account?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I meant the password reset, as in you forget your password and they send you a link to set a new one. I assume Lemmy has that.

    I've not changed my password manually yet. I assume from the "new, verify, old password" boxes that it doesn't need to email you about that.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    "I was just lying for Internet points."

    "I wanted them to think I was one of them so that they would admit their piracy to me and I could turn them in."

    "Yes, I admit it, I pirated (name of public domain movie)!"

    Or just don't take the stand and let your lawyer figure it out. Unless they have another file filled with evidence that an IP you owned was used for piracy and they were just looking for some kind of evidence it was you using it, I don't think they have much of a case.

    Edit: apparently Lemmy removes rather than escapes angled brackets, so replaced them with regular brackets.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    Does your local small to medium instance user have enough money to not get hamstrung by a big film industry's legal team?

    Edit... not that I agree with the result but I think the question I am answering with rhetorically answers the original question, unfortunately.

    Edit 2: If all this crypto stuff worked as well as it was described, it would be cool if there was a DAO or basically a mutually voted funds account that could store and send crypto funds to a lemmy instance owner to fund lawyers, should a legal case against a major lemmy instance come under legal fire.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    EU?

    in my (EU) country it's not illegal to download torrents, it's illegal to upload but not to download.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    I know that in France Both from HADOPI era to now ARCOM, you can be trialed for downloading copyrighted material, if your IP gets captured by Record Labels. the lightest punishement would be the suspension of your internet subscription, but could also result in ahefty fine (thousands of people were forced to pay such a fine) still no one went to prison for this.

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