▲ 40 ▼ Any good Telegram alternative? (lemm.ee) submitted 2 years ago by TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments I tried SimpleX but the VPN kill switch on my phone prevents syncing with my computer. I use telegram primarily as a note taking app with sync features. Occasionally I send files to friends, so having easy set up for tech illiterate would be great.
[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (2 children) Signal permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So easy to setup my tech illiterate parents could do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Now try without a phone number. Go ahead. Try permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago You can't That's not the point though permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Not even that. Go set it up even with a phone number but without a smartphone. Let's just say my mom would not be able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think the intent is baby steps for those who aren't already privacy invested. Getting parents or tech illiterate to switch to Signal is a win. They weren't hiding their number anyway. I currently have a Signal account tied to a sim not in my name. Getting a burner with cash is an option then park it. Or, if you're lucky enough to live near a payphone and can gain access to the number, you can activate a signal with a phone call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JSharp1436@mstdn.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) @Sparkega @delirious_owl Have you ever used Wire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Not as good as some others around permalink fedilink source parent [–] clot27@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Signal can't do shit Canit sync messages b/w devices seamlessly? Doe it have unlimited storage? Channels? Isn't upload size limit 100mb? Telegram has 4gb. Advance Bots? Good Ui/Ux? High quality stickers? Big public groups? Mini apps? Lol, signal is NOT an alternative to telegram as a whole, it can only partly replace its messaging functionality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Signal is private. This is c/privacy. Telegram is not private at all, but has channels and big groups and even, yes, mini-apps. So Telegram is not an alternative to Signal either, it doesn't even start solving problems that are solved genially in Signal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the post is about telegram alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try Nostr, I dunno. Or VKontakte if you want the Telegram functionality of sending transcripts of your communications to FSB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) So easy to setup my tech illiterate parents could do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Now try without a phone number. Go ahead. Try permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago You can't That's not the point though permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Not even that. Go set it up even with a phone number but without a smartphone. Let's just say my mom would not be able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think the intent is baby steps for those who aren't already privacy invested. Getting parents or tech illiterate to switch to Signal is a win. They weren't hiding their number anyway. I currently have a Signal account tied to a sim not in my name. Getting a burner with cash is an option then park it. Or, if you're lucky enough to live near a payphone and can gain access to the number, you can activate a signal with a phone call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JSharp1436@mstdn.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) @Sparkega @delirious_owl Have you ever used Wire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Not as good as some others around permalink fedilink source parent
[+] delirious_owl@discuss.online -6 points 2 years ago (3 children) Now try without a phone number. Go ahead. Try permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago You can't That's not the point though permalink fedilink source parent [–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Not even that. Go set it up even with a phone number but without a smartphone. Let's just say my mom would not be able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think the intent is baby steps for those who aren't already privacy invested. Getting parents or tech illiterate to switch to Signal is a win. They weren't hiding their number anyway. I currently have a Signal account tied to a sim not in my name. Getting a burner with cash is an option then park it. Or, if you're lucky enough to live near a payphone and can gain access to the number, you can activate a signal with a phone call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JSharp1436@mstdn.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) @Sparkega @delirious_owl Have you ever used Wire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Not as good as some others around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago You can't That's not the point though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Not even that. Go set it up even with a phone number but without a smartphone. Let's just say my mom would not be able to do that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sparkega@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I think the intent is baby steps for those who aren't already privacy invested. Getting parents or tech illiterate to switch to Signal is a win. They weren't hiding their number anyway. I currently have a Signal account tied to a sim not in my name. Getting a burner with cash is an option then park it. Or, if you're lucky enough to live near a payphone and can gain access to the number, you can activate a signal with a phone call. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JSharp1436@mstdn.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) @Sparkega @delirious_owl Have you ever used Wire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Not as good as some others around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JSharp1436@mstdn.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) @Sparkega @delirious_owl Have you ever used Wire? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Not as good as some others around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago Not as good as some others around permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clot27@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Signal can't do shit Canit sync messages b/w devices seamlessly? Doe it have unlimited storage? Channels? Isn't upload size limit 100mb? Telegram has 4gb. Advance Bots? Good Ui/Ux? High quality stickers? Big public groups? Mini apps? Lol, signal is NOT an alternative to telegram as a whole, it can only partly replace its messaging functionality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Signal is private. This is c/privacy. Telegram is not private at all, but has channels and big groups and even, yes, mini-apps. So Telegram is not an alternative to Signal either, it doesn't even start solving problems that are solved genially in Signal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the post is about telegram alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try Nostr, I dunno. Or VKontakte if you want the Telegram functionality of sending transcripts of your communications to FSB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Signal is private. This is c/privacy. Telegram is not private at all, but has channels and big groups and even, yes, mini-apps. So Telegram is not an alternative to Signal either, it doesn't even start solving problems that are solved genially in Signal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the post is about telegram alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try Nostr, I dunno. Or VKontakte if you want the Telegram functionality of sending transcripts of your communications to FSB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clot27@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) And the post is about telegram alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try Nostr, I dunno. Or VKontakte if you want the Telegram functionality of sending transcripts of your communications to FSB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Try Nostr, I dunno. Or VKontakte if you want the Telegram functionality of sending transcripts of your communications to FSB. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] clot27@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ok conspiracy theorist signal fan permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You should learn something about things you use before talking about conspiracy theories. permalink fedilink source parent