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[–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

If they're exclusively supporting the right wing candidate, they're not a centrist, then

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Centrism within the context of an exclusively right-wing overton window is always going to functionally be right wing.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can't possibly make a reasonable argument that Kamala Harris is a fascist lmao

    • Authoritarian: no
    • Ultra-nationalist: no
    • Forcible suppression of opposition: no
    • Militarisation of society: no
    • State controlled economy: no
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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    I didn't make that point, I said she is right-wing, and is running on the same foreign policy as Trump did 4 years ago, with her promising to build the wall and strengthen border patrol.

    Either way:

    Authoritarian

    What do you mean by this? America isn't a real democracy, if she supports the current system then I believe her to be authoritarian.

    Ultra-nationalist

    If you count Trump's border policy from 2016-2020 as Ultra-Nationalist, she's Ultra-Nationalist. She also wants the US military to be, and I quote from her speech at the DNC, as "the most lethal military in the world."

    Forcible suppression of opposition

    Democrats kicked the Party for Socialism and Liberation off the ballot in Georgia already, so while we aren't all the way there, signs of it are showing up

    Militarisation of society

    Not there yet, sure.

    State controlled economy

    Much of the US economy is state-controlled, it's just that the US State is controlled by the Bourgeoisie.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    except she is for all those things except the last one which is self evident since fascists fucking love the shit out of the free market.

    she is literally a fucking pig

    she is amerikkkan and proud

    literally head pig in california when the pigs where running people over in 2020

    the amerikkkan empire is already so militarized that anything short of trying to scale it back counts

    just because the other ghoul is even more of a fascists doesn't make her not one.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The overton window shifted more left than right, unless said centrist lives in Turkey or Russia

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What do you mean by that? Where is the Overton Window sliding to the left?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    This is misleading. Most people do not actually know what Socialism or Communism are in the US (including people on Lemmy.world and other more liberalized instances) that think they know. What we are seeing is increasing polarization, fascism and Socialism are rising as a response to decaying Imperialism in the American Empire, as a consequence of decaying Capitalism.

    Party-wise, the Democrats are running on the GOP platform of 4 years ago, while the GOP is running on overt fascism. American politics is more right-wing than ever before.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Under the asumption I am most people, can you give me the definition of socialism you prefer?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism.

    People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power.

    Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Anywhere that companies will cater to the left, why would they throw away profit otherwise? You're the majority now and they'll market accordingly

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What do you think "left" means? Communists and Socialists are not the majority, nor are they being pandered to. Right-wingers like Liberals make up the majority.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're kidding me, by your definition I'm center right

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yes, you are, presuming you support Capitalism.

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