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[–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/communism-millennials-capitalism-socialism-bernie-sanders-cold-war-yougov-a9188116.html permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) This is misleading. Most people do not actually know what Socialism or Communism are in the US (including people on Lemmy.world and other more liberalized instances) that think they know. What we are seeing is increasing polarization, fascism and Socialism are rising as a response to decaying Imperialism in the American Empire, as a consequence of decaying Capitalism. Party-wise, the Democrats are running on the GOP platform of 4 years ago, while the GOP is running on overt fascism. American politics is more right-wing than ever before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Under the asumption I am most people, can you give me the definition of socialism you prefer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago In addition to Cowbee's comment, the Prolewiki article on Socialism expands on it. Socialism for Beginners How Capitalism Robs The Developing World What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke") “Yeah Capitalism Is Bad… But What Can We Do?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism. People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power. Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Why? What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) This is misleading. Most people do not actually know what Socialism or Communism are in the US (including people on Lemmy.world and other more liberalized instances) that think they know. What we are seeing is increasing polarization, fascism and Socialism are rising as a response to decaying Imperialism in the American Empire, as a consequence of decaying Capitalism. Party-wise, the Democrats are running on the GOP platform of 4 years ago, while the GOP is running on overt fascism. American politics is more right-wing than ever before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Under the asumption I am most people, can you give me the definition of socialism you prefer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago In addition to Cowbee's comment, the Prolewiki article on Socialism expands on it. Socialism for Beginners How Capitalism Robs The Developing World What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke") “Yeah Capitalism Is Bad… But What Can We Do?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism. People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power. Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Why? What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Under the asumption I am most people, can you give me the definition of socialism you prefer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago In addition to Cowbee's comment, the Prolewiki article on Socialism expands on it. Socialism for Beginners How Capitalism Robs The Developing World What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke") “Yeah Capitalism Is Bad… But What Can We Do?” permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism. People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power. Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Why? What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago In addition to Cowbee's comment, the Prolewiki article on Socialism expands on it. Socialism for Beginners How Capitalism Robs The Developing World What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke") “Yeah Capitalism Is Bad… But What Can We Do?” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism. People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power. Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Why? What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Why? What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago Why? What are you talking about? permalink fedilink source parent
