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Founder and CEO of Telegram messaging service arrested in France (www.tf1info.fr)
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[–] 111 points 2 years ago (4 children)

By that logic we should arrest all Car company CEOs for being complicit in crime lol, it's not exactly his choice what people do with his product

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Not really comparable because the illegal content is hosted and distributed through his servers. Which is why most sites are moderated to a degree. This dude basically said "fuck off" whenever takedowns were issued. It's hardly a surprise that he's been arrested.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Illegal content is distributed through snail mail and telephones too, but those are common carriers so they aren't liable. Why should Telegram be any different?

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    The analogy works if you lease or rent.

    Rent a car, commit a crime, boom — rental company is on the hook apparently. Moronic.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The rental company, on the other hand, is more than willing to turn you in to not be considered liable. Which they probably would be if they impeded an investigation.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Your modified analogy is broken, since it is impossible for an encryption service to provide the information being subpoenaed by definition. You wouldn’t claim Hertz is “impeding an investigation” by failing to use telepathy. Damn but authoritarians are stupid.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    But, have you noticed that after committing a crime, criminals and felons usually escape.... using a car?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This is more like arresting the getaway driver, not the car manufacturer.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Except the getaway driver is just a cabbie who will drive anyone who gets in. He didn't know he was part of a heist.

    Would you hold the CEO of lyft responsible if one of their self-driving cars were used in a heist?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    If the CEO of Lyft got repeated warnings that this very thing was happening and ignored them willfully, then yes. In the end he has nobody to blame but himself. It's no different from hosting a file sharing platform without ever vetting the content and wondering why the cops show up one day. The stupidity of going to France knowing that you're a wanted man in a number of countries is just the cherry on top.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Not really comparable because the illegal content is hosted and distributed through his servers.

    landlords should be prosecuted for crimes commited by tenants in houses they rented out to the tenants.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I mean depending on the crimes, yeah. If a child porn ring runs out of your building and you're alerted to its continued existence, and the police are asking who lives there and you don't tell them and keep renting to them? Yeah.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If the landlord knows it's happening and let it happen then yeah, that's what being complicit is all about

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    how are you meant to know, by impeding on your tenant's privacy constantly?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    Well, telegram has public and private conversations. So in this example, you'd know because they were having trafficking parties on their front yard and the police of multiple countries notified them to let them know. And then you were aware of this issue so you purposely avoided being in numerous countries that want to arrest you. Seems like he knew.

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