▲ 1383 ▼ Consumer, we have detected that you are above the poverty line. The 99¢ price printed on this Arizona tea can only applies to those below the poverty line. Your total comes to $3.67. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by LengAwaits@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world 252 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, the existing "base line" price will stay as is for the poors. Those with slightly more money however....those will pay more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, that's what an MBA would decide, so that's likely what's going to happen. That's why I said in my second line: It won’t be done properly. It never is when left to the corporations. But yet you STILL opened your reply with a flat 'no', proving you only ever bothered to read a single sentence of my reply so I'm downvoting you, blocking you, and forgetting you ever existed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joranvar@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't think their "No" was a disagreement, but a confirmation of your second line. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/88502/how-to-agree-with-a-negative-statement-with-yes-or-with-no Sometimes, language can be a tricky tool to wield. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* It really seems more like they didn't read the second line though, since there is nothing in how that comment is phrased that acknowledges it, and since that sort of comment-without-reading is extremely common especially for topics with political significance. The standard way is to clarify your answer by rephrasing the question rather than only saying "no" or "yes". So in this case maybe that could have been done by saying it like "No, they won't do it properly," but if you want to communicate that you have read the whole thing you're responding to you basically have to do this, because it is extremely reasonable to assume it was not read if there is no indication. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you can have a block as well! I'm so glad they're free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’d like to order one block please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well since the government has all the info and has the postal service to get stuff to the people in need, why not just send this people some sort of stamps for free that lets them buy food, lets call it food stamps or something. Jk, that would never work, let's give all that sensitive data to some company that will definitely not leak, sell it or use it for some nefarious thing, because it will use AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago No, you just hate your life. This thread isn't about you, so shut the hell up. No one cares. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) We could wipe out food insecurity by just doing taxes properly. We shouldn't tolerate for-profit businesses doing what the government should be doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And politicians who work to privatise public services should be sent straight to the gallows for the traitors they are. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago What you're describing is a more socialist/communist view on means based price adjustment. This is real-time price gouging, which is good old-fashioned capitalism. Looing forward to WIC and SNAP benefits being erased by price gouging on the needy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you think about it, it does not make financial sense for them to maintain this kind of system as a purely progressive price discrimination that charges richer people more money. I expect a lot of it would end up more like the Uber practice of charging more to people with low phone battery; they will identify who is more desperate, who has less choice but to buy the given product immediately, and charge them more. Because of how poverty works, that's more likely the poor. This is a major reason we still need cash and other ways of saying no to corporate surveillance; if we can't maintain privacy when making purchases that information will be used as a weapon against us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) We get more like reddit every day... Blocked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago I was agreeing with you so this is confusing, ok though. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Omnificer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea, as a sort of reverse tax credit, it would be interesting. But as a profit driver, it's nice and dystopian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I guess food stamps kind of do this but they are so hard to actually be granted. We need something automatic that is specifically geared to solving food insecurity for the most needy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, the existing "base line" price will stay as is for the poors. Those with slightly more money however....those will pay more. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, that's what an MBA would decide, so that's likely what's going to happen. That's why I said in my second line: It won’t be done properly. It never is when left to the corporations. But yet you STILL opened your reply with a flat 'no', proving you only ever bothered to read a single sentence of my reply so I'm downvoting you, blocking you, and forgetting you ever existed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joranvar@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't think their "No" was a disagreement, but a confirmation of your second line. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/88502/how-to-agree-with-a-negative-statement-with-yes-or-with-no Sometimes, language can be a tricky tool to wield. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* It really seems more like they didn't read the second line though, since there is nothing in how that comment is phrased that acknowledges it, and since that sort of comment-without-reading is extremely common especially for topics with political significance. The standard way is to clarify your answer by rephrasing the question rather than only saying "no" or "yes". So in this case maybe that could have been done by saying it like "No, they won't do it properly," but if you want to communicate that you have read the whole thing you're responding to you basically have to do this, because it is extremely reasonable to assume it was not read if there is no indication. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you can have a block as well! I'm so glad they're free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’d like to order one block please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -23 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep, that's what an MBA would decide, so that's likely what's going to happen. That's why I said in my second line: It won’t be done properly. It never is when left to the corporations. But yet you STILL opened your reply with a flat 'no', proving you only ever bothered to read a single sentence of my reply so I'm downvoting you, blocking you, and forgetting you ever existed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joranvar@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't think their "No" was a disagreement, but a confirmation of your second line. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/88502/how-to-agree-with-a-negative-statement-with-yes-or-with-no Sometimes, language can be a tricky tool to wield. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* It really seems more like they didn't read the second line though, since there is nothing in how that comment is phrased that acknowledges it, and since that sort of comment-without-reading is extremely common especially for topics with political significance. The standard way is to clarify your answer by rephrasing the question rather than only saying "no" or "yes". So in this case maybe that could have been done by saying it like "No, they won't do it properly," but if you want to communicate that you have read the whole thing you're responding to you basically have to do this, because it is extremely reasonable to assume it was not read if there is no indication. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you can have a block as well! I'm so glad they're free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’d like to order one block please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joranvar@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't think their "No" was a disagreement, but a confirmation of your second line. https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/88502/how-to-agree-with-a-negative-statement-with-yes-or-with-no Sometimes, language can be a tricky tool to wield. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* It really seems more like they didn't read the second line though, since there is nothing in how that comment is phrased that acknowledges it, and since that sort of comment-without-reading is extremely common especially for topics with political significance. The standard way is to clarify your answer by rephrasing the question rather than only saying "no" or "yes". So in this case maybe that could have been done by saying it like "No, they won't do it properly," but if you want to communicate that you have read the whole thing you're responding to you basically have to do this, because it is extremely reasonable to assume it was not read if there is no indication. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you can have a block as well! I'm so glad they're free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’d like to order one block please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* It really seems more like they didn't read the second line though, since there is nothing in how that comment is phrased that acknowledges it, and since that sort of comment-without-reading is extremely common especially for topics with political significance. The standard way is to clarify your answer by rephrasing the question rather than only saying "no" or "yes". So in this case maybe that could have been done by saying it like "No, they won't do it properly," but if you want to communicate that you have read the whole thing you're responding to you basically have to do this, because it is extremely reasonable to assume it was not read if there is no indication. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (1 child) And you can have a block as well! I'm so glad they're free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’d like to order one block please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I’d like to order one block please. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One steaming hot block coming right up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago Well after reading this thread, you can have one yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Well since the government has all the info and has the postal service to get stuff to the people in need, why not just send this people some sort of stamps for free that lets them buy food, lets call it food stamps or something. Jk, that would never work, let's give all that sensitive data to some company that will definitely not leak, sell it or use it for some nefarious thing, because it will use AI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago No, you just hate your life. This thread isn't about you, so shut the hell up. No one cares. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -15 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago No, you just hate your life. This thread isn't about you, so shut the hell up. No one cares. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steel_nomad@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago No, you just hate your life. This thread isn't about you, so shut the hell up. No one cares. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) We could wipe out food insecurity by just doing taxes properly. We shouldn't tolerate for-profit businesses doing what the government should be doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And politicians who work to privatise public services should be sent straight to the gallows for the traitors they are. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And politicians who work to privatise public services should be sent straight to the gallows for the traitors they are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago What you're describing is a more socialist/communist view on means based price adjustment. This is real-time price gouging, which is good old-fashioned capitalism. Looing forward to WIC and SNAP benefits being erased by price gouging on the needy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you think about it, it does not make financial sense for them to maintain this kind of system as a purely progressive price discrimination that charges richer people more money. I expect a lot of it would end up more like the Uber practice of charging more to people with low phone battery; they will identify who is more desperate, who has less choice but to buy the given product immediately, and charge them more. Because of how poverty works, that's more likely the poor. This is a major reason we still need cash and other ways of saying no to corporate surveillance; if we can't maintain privacy when making purchases that information will be used as a weapon against us. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) We get more like reddit every day... Blocked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago I was agreeing with you so this is confusing, ok though. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) We get more like reddit every day... Blocked permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago I was agreeing with you so this is confusing, ok though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago I was agreeing with you so this is confusing, ok though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Omnificer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea, as a sort of reverse tax credit, it would be interesting. But as a profit driver, it's nice and dystopian. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I guess food stamps kind of do this but they are so hard to actually be granted. We need something automatic that is specifically geared to solving food insecurity for the most needy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago I guess food stamps kind of do this but they are so hard to actually be granted. We need something automatic that is specifically geared to solving food insecurity for the most needy. permalink fedilink source parent