▲ 1644 ▼ Educate yourself. (feddit.uk) submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk [M] to c/dontyouknowwhoiam@lemmy.world 161 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world -3 points 3 years ago (1 child) How does a doctor have different access to papers with statistical analysis regarding such topics? Does a lawyer have different laws than those I can look at? Better judgement, yes, valid point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamtooth@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Have you tried to read a primary resource, scientific article? They are mostly behind a paywall, hospitals and universities pay for subscription access. So yes, doctors and researchers have easier access to papers than the public (and the expertise to critically evaluate the information presented). Also, those large cohort studies with thorough stats are a huge amount of work and always have a team of people to design the experiments, interact with patients, get the data, run the stats, and so forth. MDs would be in the mix there too, it’s not like a single immunologist would do the whole thing alone… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That is your argument? Paywall? And now it is just easier access, not actually some kind of different material all together as you claimed? There are things like Scihub, let alone any student in any university has essentially access to all papers anyway? How is that in any way anything special? I also don't get why you bring me into the discussion. Keep it about the topic at hand, you know nothing about me. It is irrelevant whether I read papers or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamtooth@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you are confused. I never implied it was different material. Blocking you now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago "access to totally different electronic information services" "has better info than any private individual." I think I misunderstood you regarding the different information (did not notice the word "services"). In any case, any random person has access to that information. A doctor will be more likely to read such papers and will also be more qualified to interpret them compared to the average of the population. However, anecdotal evidence is still irrelevant. And so are titles. All that matters are the arguments. If some little kid has arguments against something a Nobel prize winning Professor says... then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamtooth@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Have you tried to read a primary resource, scientific article? They are mostly behind a paywall, hospitals and universities pay for subscription access. So yes, doctors and researchers have easier access to papers than the public (and the expertise to critically evaluate the information presented). Also, those large cohort studies with thorough stats are a huge amount of work and always have a team of people to design the experiments, interact with patients, get the data, run the stats, and so forth. MDs would be in the mix there too, it’s not like a single immunologist would do the whole thing alone… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That is your argument? Paywall? And now it is just easier access, not actually some kind of different material all together as you claimed? There are things like Scihub, let alone any student in any university has essentially access to all papers anyway? How is that in any way anything special? I also don't get why you bring me into the discussion. Keep it about the topic at hand, you know nothing about me. It is irrelevant whether I read papers or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamtooth@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you are confused. I never implied it was different material. Blocking you now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago "access to totally different electronic information services" "has better info than any private individual." I think I misunderstood you regarding the different information (did not notice the word "services"). In any case, any random person has access to that information. A doctor will be more likely to read such papers and will also be more qualified to interpret them compared to the average of the population. However, anecdotal evidence is still irrelevant. And so are titles. All that matters are the arguments. If some little kid has arguments against something a Nobel prize winning Professor says... then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That is your argument? Paywall? And now it is just easier access, not actually some kind of different material all together as you claimed? There are things like Scihub, let alone any student in any university has essentially access to all papers anyway? How is that in any way anything special? I also don't get why you bring me into the discussion. Keep it about the topic at hand, you know nothing about me. It is irrelevant whether I read papers or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hamtooth@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you are confused. I never implied it was different material. Blocking you now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago "access to totally different electronic information services" "has better info than any private individual." I think I misunderstood you regarding the different information (did not notice the word "services"). In any case, any random person has access to that information. A doctor will be more likely to read such papers and will also be more qualified to interpret them compared to the average of the population. However, anecdotal evidence is still irrelevant. And so are titles. All that matters are the arguments. If some little kid has arguments against something a Nobel prize winning Professor says... then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hamtooth@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I think you are confused. I never implied it was different material. Blocking you now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago "access to totally different electronic information services" "has better info than any private individual." I think I misunderstood you regarding the different information (did not notice the word "services"). In any case, any random person has access to that information. A doctor will be more likely to read such papers and will also be more qualified to interpret them compared to the average of the population. However, anecdotal evidence is still irrelevant. And so are titles. All that matters are the arguments. If some little kid has arguments against something a Nobel prize winning Professor says... then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago "access to totally different electronic information services" "has better info than any private individual." I think I misunderstood you regarding the different information (did not notice the word "services"). In any case, any random person has access to that information. A doctor will be more likely to read such papers and will also be more qualified to interpret them compared to the average of the population. However, anecdotal evidence is still irrelevant. And so are titles. All that matters are the arguments. If some little kid has arguments against something a Nobel prize winning Professor says... then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
