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Biden introduces Zelenskiy as ‘President Putin’ at Nato summit (www.theguardian.com)
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Did he do it for the memes?

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[–] 63 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yeah, I'll vote blue... But get this fucker off the ticket. I'd much rather it be Kamala, or like... Nearly anyone really.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yeah, the question isn't who Democrats will vote for. It's who independents will vote for. And there are a lot of independents.

    Relying on the "Never Trump" vote to win this election feels like a terrible risk.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    The question is who will turn out to vote. The number of "independents" who don't overwhelmingly vote republican or democratic is vanishingly small. This is found time and time again. Ultimately it's a question of which electorate turns out and which is demotivated enough not to.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We don't have democracy anymore.

    First, the SCOTUS ruling did away with that last week, but let's ignore that for now...

    We have a fascist authoritarian in charge who refuses to even consider stepping down until he dies - certainly he is not going to let the people decide who gets to be the Democratic nominee - vs. someone who will become a dictator for life and do the same, but somehow much, MUCH worse.

    I hope that many people vote Blue No Matter Who... yet I fear that many independents won't.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't think you realise what a fascist authoritarian is my lad.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's a bit hyperbolic in this context, yet also technically accurate in a surprising number of ways, though mostly I was focusing on how he won't allow an election to determine who gets to be the Democratic nominee. Also, he has the legal ability to murder his opponents, and is both supporting (in Gaza) even while also decrying (in Ukraine) genocide. Anyway, the point is that he is suppressing opposition (from within his own party, by not allowing a debate about who may replace him), which yes he has the legal ability to do, fwiw. So he is not much of one perhaps, but has some characteristics not entirely dissimilar to one.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    yeah those observations are fair. Regardless now I'm afraid Trump has sealed his win with this shooting. His voters are going to be mobilised like never before for the election

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago*

    Maybe. Though I say we just come together, get his ass in, and then in the first year also get his ass out and let the VP or Speaker step in. Like it or not, changing now IS risky and it is arguable whether it's the better choice. I'll go with what the majority chooses because fighting against Trump and the GOP is what's important.

    Let me repeat: We are in the game where we must do what the Republicans do and come together against a common enemy. So I recommend everyone agree on a candidate then shut up and checkmark that box. We can go back to verbally juxtaposing our positions through digital larping, or whatever it is we do when most of us forget politics exist for four years.

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