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Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough (www.xda-developers.com)
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There were a number of exciting announcements from Apple at WWDC 2024, from macOS Sequoia to Apple Intelligence. However, a subtle addition to Xcode 16 — the development environment for Apple platforms, like iOS and macOS — is a feature called Predictive Code Completion. Unfortunately, if you bought into Apple's claim that 8GB of unified memory was enough for base-model Apple silicon Macs, you won't be able to use it. There's a memory requirement for Predictive Code Completion in Xcode 16, and it's the closest thing we'll get from Apple to an admission that 8GB of memory isn't really enough for a new Mac in 2024.

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[–] 84 points 2 years ago (9 children)

imagine showing this post to someone in 1995

shit has gotten too bloated these days. i mean even in my head 8GB still sounds like 'a lot' of RAM and 16GB feels extravagant

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (43 children)

    I still can't fully accept that 1GB is not normal, 2GB is not very good, and 4GB is not all you ever gonna need.

    If only it got bloated for some good reasons.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    I remember when I got my first computer with 1GB of RAM, where my previous computer had 64MB, later upgraded to 192MB. And there were only like 3 or 4 years in between them.

    It was like: holy shit, now I can put all the things in RAM. I will never run out.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The moment you use a file that is bigger than 1GB, that computer will explode.

    Some of us do more than just browse Lemmy.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Wow. Have you ever considered how people were working with files bigger than total RAM they had in the normal days of computing?

    So in your opinion if you have 2GB+ of a log file, editing it you should have 2GB RAM occupied?

    I just have no words, the ignorance.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I have a VPS that uses 1GB of RAM, it has 6-7 apps running in docker containers which isn't the most ram efficient method of running apps.

    A light OS really helps, plus the most used app that uses a lot of RAM actually reduce their consumption if needed, but use more when memory is free, the web browser. On one computer I have chrome running with some hundreds of MB used, instead of the usual GBs because RAM is running out.

    So it appears that memory is full,but you can actually have a bit more memory available that is "hidden"

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    Same here. When idle, the apps basically consume nothing. If they are just a webserver that calls to some PHP script, it basically takes no RAM at all when idle, and some RAM when actually used.

    Websites and phone apps are such an unoptimized pieces if garbage that they are the sole reason for high RAM requirements. Also lots of background bloatware.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    This is resource reservation, it happens at an OS level. If chrome is using what appears to be alot of ram, it will be freed up once either the OS or another application requires it.

    It just exists so that an application knows that if it needs that resource it can use X amount for now.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    You just have to watch your favorite tablet get slower year after year to understand that a lot of this is artificial. They could make applications that don't need those resources but would never do so.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I once went for lower CAS timing 2x 128MB ram sticks (256 MB) instead of 2x 256s with slower speeds because I thought 512MB was insane overkill. Realized how wrong I was when trying to play Star Wars galaxies mmorpg when a lot of people were on the screen it started swapping to disk. Look up the specs for an IBM Aptiva, first computer my parents bought, and you'll understand how 512MB can seem like a lot.

    Now my current computer has 64 GB (most gaming computers go for 32GB) at the time I built it. My workstation at work has 128GB which really isn't even enough for some workloads we have that use a lot of in-memory cache.. And large servers can have multiple TB of RAM. My mind has been blown multiple times.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You can always switch to a text based terminal and free up your memory. Just don't compain that YouTube doesn't play 4K videos anymore.

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