▲ 189 ▼ San Diego officer resigns after locking himself in patrol car with woman he arrested (www.sandiegouniontribune.com) submitted 2 years ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world 50 comments fedilink hide all child comments The investigators also asked Hair for permission to check his uniforms for semen. “I don’t know my rights. Do I have to?” the former officer asked. “I don’t think I want to do that.” I plead the right to no blacklight searches!
[+] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca -14 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you'd have read the article, you'd know that's not what happened. “You’re not too bad,” the woman can be heard saying on body-worn camera footage. “What’s it gonna hurt me if I work the system, you know what I mean?” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) People in police custody cannot legally consent to sex. Regardless of how willing she was, she was still being held against her will. That, by california law, is still rape. By your reasoning, would threatening a woman until she has sex with you still count as rape? Because you seem to be saying that everything is fine and dandy as long as the woman eventually consents, regardless of circumstance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Coerced consent is not consent, so sex after threats is rape, yeah, I agree with you there. But that's not what happened in this case. I don't think the two scenarios are the same. The cop still committed a crime, I just don't think the crime is rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trofont@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago According to California law it's literally rape. So you're quibbling over fine line definitions for no reason. In addition, the woman would not have had sex with him if not for his position and authority. The fact that she didn't scream and complain is irrelevant. It's the same as if a woman doesn't fight off an aggressor because shes afraid of more or worse violence. The lack of physical resistance is not consent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) People in police custody cannot legally consent to sex. Regardless of how willing she was, she was still being held against her will. That, by california law, is still rape. By your reasoning, would threatening a woman until she has sex with you still count as rape? Because you seem to be saying that everything is fine and dandy as long as the woman eventually consents, regardless of circumstance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Coerced consent is not consent, so sex after threats is rape, yeah, I agree with you there. But that's not what happened in this case. I don't think the two scenarios are the same. The cop still committed a crime, I just don't think the crime is rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trofont@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago According to California law it's literally rape. So you're quibbling over fine line definitions for no reason. In addition, the woman would not have had sex with him if not for his position and authority. The fact that she didn't scream and complain is irrelevant. It's the same as if a woman doesn't fight off an aggressor because shes afraid of more or worse violence. The lack of physical resistance is not consent. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca -13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Coerced consent is not consent, so sex after threats is rape, yeah, I agree with you there. But that's not what happened in this case. I don't think the two scenarios are the same. The cop still committed a crime, I just don't think the crime is rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trofont@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago According to California law it's literally rape. So you're quibbling over fine line definitions for no reason. In addition, the woman would not have had sex with him if not for his position and authority. The fact that she didn't scream and complain is irrelevant. It's the same as if a woman doesn't fight off an aggressor because shes afraid of more or worse violence. The lack of physical resistance is not consent. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trofont@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago According to California law it's literally rape. So you're quibbling over fine line definitions for no reason. In addition, the woman would not have had sex with him if not for his position and authority. The fact that she didn't scream and complain is irrelevant. It's the same as if a woman doesn't fight off an aggressor because shes afraid of more or worse violence. The lack of physical resistance is not consent. permalink fedilink source parent