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Average capitalism enjoyer (media.mas.to)
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[–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

And farmers who own their lands, and workers who want unions independent of the state, and political dissidents, and a thousand other groups

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  • [+] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    you mean that land that is worthless without government fundings and bail out?

    Idk man the kulaks liked their land and died for it

    wut im sorry are you gonna try to claim capitalism is better for workers? XD

    By any objective measure, capitalism plus taxes and a robust social welfare system is the best available system.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    And farmers who own their lands

    :::spoiler The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, leading to almost totally equal redistribution of the land amongst the peasantry

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    farmers who own their lands,

    which burned their crop because they didn't want to collectivize causing food shortages

    and workers who want unions independent of the state,

    which were ultimately used by the west (solidarnośc)

    and political dissidents,

    Unlike any other country

    and a thousand other groups

    No u

    the bourgeoisie and their running dogs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're a political dissident if you live in a capitalist country. You in jail?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You think society should improve, but you're not in jail, so society is perfect. Checkmate commie smuglord

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm just saying, you assert capitalist countries would do the same as communist countries with political dissidents, why aren't you in a capitalist gulag for speaking against capitalism quite publically?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Look at what happened actual organized dissidents like Fred Hapton, MLK, the Black Panthers, the original Black Lives Matters organizers in Ferguson etc. if you want to see what the US gov does to dissidents. We're just people on a reddit clone, they don't care

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Farmers who own their own lands"

    And hire laborers that make less than minimum wage

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    He's entitled to keep the product of his labour, "hiring" isn't a thing after the revolution since "money" isn't a thing after the revolution, nor is "owning" a farm. If he "hires" a guy to plant crops, the hired man has done the labor and thus owns the crops. Since the farm is "the means of production," "the man who owns the farm" does not actually own the farm, "the people" do.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm talking about how farms are in capitalist US now. People who own the land rip off laborers, who tend to be migrant workers without a way of protecting themselves.

    I want the revolution to expropriatate the land and belong to to the people

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Oh he had listed those things as "people who should fear communism" so I thought you were on topic not just throwing semi-related jabs at farmers who will never read this, so I thought you meant like "only if he pays people less than minimum wage" so I popped in with "no no, not even if he does pay well." My mistake!

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