▲ 2806 ▼ TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS (www.bbc.com) submitted 2 years ago by TheDudeV2@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world 764 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 41 points 2 years ago (3 children) Anyone expecting much more than a small fine that he won't pay anyway, followed by him pardoning himself in January? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] raptorattacks@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago This is a state crime, not federal, so he can't pardon himself as president. I think he could if he was governor of New York, which seems like a long shot. And New York's AG has seemed pretty keen on seizing his property if he wouldn't pay before. Idk if they can do that for these types of fines but I'm sure they will if they can. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) 100% Him serving jail time.. lol before election? Oooweee how the nation would react. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) How a small but violent subset of the nation would react. A significant number of people would be just fine with him going to jail and forget about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jhulten@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago And we should probably find the people who will act on their bluster somehow... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't imagine the RNC trying to scramble to get another candidate this close to the election. More likely as not he either pays a small fine. I doubt he'll get jailtimr. Knowing this country and how weird things have gotten he'll go to jail and his supporters will come out in droves to the ballot box and then win the presidency and we'll be in a really tough spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* Nikki Haley is the backup, she's already got a few delegates to make it official. Too bad that even if he died, a significant part of his supporters would probably vote for him anyways thinking he's secretly alive permalink fedilink source parent [–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He probably gets more than the fine is from his donations due to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which, if he's making appeals based off the verdict (thus profiting off a crime), those funds could be seized as well, I believe. (your mileage may vary, check with local jurisdictions for details) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Political campaign donations cannot pay for the Trump Organization’s lawsuit fines and I don’t think they can pay for his personal criminal legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Political campaign donations cannot legally pay for ... Kicking the can a little further down the road. He'll be dead before he sees any real consequences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] raptorattacks@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago This is a state crime, not federal, so he can't pardon himself as president. I think he could if he was governor of New York, which seems like a long shot. And New York's AG has seemed pretty keen on seizing his property if he wouldn't pay before. Idk if they can do that for these types of fines but I'm sure they will if they can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) 100% Him serving jail time.. lol before election? Oooweee how the nation would react. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) How a small but violent subset of the nation would react. A significant number of people would be just fine with him going to jail and forget about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jhulten@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago And we should probably find the people who will act on their bluster somehow... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't imagine the RNC trying to scramble to get another candidate this close to the election. More likely as not he either pays a small fine. I doubt he'll get jailtimr. Knowing this country and how weird things have gotten he'll go to jail and his supporters will come out in droves to the ballot box and then win the presidency and we'll be in a really tough spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* Nikki Haley is the backup, she's already got a few delegates to make it official. Too bad that even if he died, a significant part of his supporters would probably vote for him anyways thinking he's secretly alive permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) How a small but violent subset of the nation would react. A significant number of people would be just fine with him going to jail and forget about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jhulten@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago And we should probably find the people who will act on their bluster somehow... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jhulten@infosec.pub 1 point 2 years ago And we should probably find the people who will act on their bluster somehow... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I can't imagine the RNC trying to scramble to get another candidate this close to the election. More likely as not he either pays a small fine. I doubt he'll get jailtimr. Knowing this country and how weird things have gotten he'll go to jail and his supporters will come out in droves to the ballot box and then win the presidency and we'll be in a really tough spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* Nikki Haley is the backup, she's already got a few delegates to make it official. Too bad that even if he died, a significant part of his supporters would probably vote for him anyways thinking he's secretly alive permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* Nikki Haley is the backup, she's already got a few delegates to make it official. Too bad that even if he died, a significant part of his supporters would probably vote for him anyways thinking he's secretly alive permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He probably gets more than the fine is from his donations due to this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which, if he's making appeals based off the verdict (thus profiting off a crime), those funds could be seized as well, I believe. (your mileage may vary, check with local jurisdictions for details) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Political campaign donations cannot pay for the Trump Organization’s lawsuit fines and I don’t think they can pay for his personal criminal legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Political campaign donations cannot legally pay for ... Kicking the can a little further down the road. He'll be dead before he sees any real consequences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Which, if he's making appeals based off the verdict (thus profiting off a crime), those funds could be seized as well, I believe. (your mileage may vary, check with local jurisdictions for details) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Political campaign donations cannot pay for the Trump Organization’s lawsuit fines and I don’t think they can pay for his personal criminal legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Political campaign donations cannot legally pay for ... Kicking the can a little further down the road. He'll be dead before he sees any real consequences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Political campaign donations cannot pay for the Trump Organization’s lawsuit fines and I don’t think they can pay for his personal criminal legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Political campaign donations cannot legally pay for ... Kicking the can a little further down the road. He'll be dead before he sees any real consequences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Political campaign donations cannot legally pay for ... Kicking the can a little further down the road. He'll be dead before he sees any real consequences. permalink fedilink source parent