Thanks I always thought ther was a grub for each os and they will recognize each other ... Following an other user advices I have added a separate /boot partition to Ubuntu but eventhow I have added the line in the fatab on boot it doesn't mount properly so I have to manually mount it from the recovery mode... if I select to mount it on boot from the GUI (gnome-disks) it adds a couple of lines in the file /run/systems/generator/boot.mount but nothing changes ...can u confirm me that this file is not consulted on boot so its not relevant ? So should I mount the /boot/EFI (already mounted) ,/ , /home and /boot (already mounted) on Ubuntu before updating grub ? Doesn't this tell to mount the arch os when I boot ubuntu ? .... I have just realized could the problem be in the fact that during the arch install I have followed a tutorial which have told me to create a /boot /EFI directory on witch I should mount the EFI partition while in Ubuntu the EFI partition is mounted in /boot/efi that could defenetly be it ... how should I proceed to fix it remove the EFI directory with all the stuff there's in it and mount it on /boot/efi? Don't wanna mess it up removing stuff is always dangerous... Let me know thanks a lot man I feel like we are getting closer
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