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Fewer people in the US plan to buy EVs this year, study shows (www.reuters.com)
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The number of buyers in the U.S. considering an electric vehicle purchase in 2024 has fallen from a year ago due to a shortage of affordable cars, inadequate charging infrastructure and ignorance about EV benefits, a study by J.D. Power, opens new tab has shown.

Other factors contributing to waning EV demand in the United States include stubborn inflation, high interest rates and underwhelming growth in model availability, the study said.

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[–] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've been actively suggesting to those who ask my opinion that they should wait until 2025 and more models coming out with NACS charging integrated. Tesla may be a shitshow but you can't (yet) beat the charging infrastructure and adapters are never as good.

Also, the market is changing so rapidly that it's hard to justify most of the current offerings.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    When he fired all 500 members of the Tesla supercharger team out of spite, a lot of those common plug agreements got real shakey. That team was responsible for integrating all the different manufacturers into the Tesla ecosystem, which is a much bigger lift then just a plug and some protocols.

    Right now they dont even have anyone who knows who was installing what, where. Coordinating integration of a dozen billion dollar car brands into infastructure Tesla now doesnt even understand? We might be waiting till 2026 or never for that to happen.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Definitely a good time to consider a lease. You don’t want to be saddled with something outdated in a year or two. Leases are ok for precisely this situation where you want to get frequent new cars and not keep the old. While technology is changed by so fast, why not?

    I did go ahead with a purchase but I considered it. I believe Tesla currently has a fantastic deal on A Model 3 lease so maybe that would have changed something but it’s too late for me

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    1 extra year will help to see how the batteries actual perform. After 10 years a Tesla's battery is under 80% of its original capacity, you're at the point of losing 1/4, 25%, of range. Not sure how many fail completely.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not to mention many live in cold climates 1/3+ of the year, further impacting EV capacity. That's the killer for me currently. I can't not go to work for a week due to a cold snap.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    If you can't get to work during a cold snap than either you are not charging your battery (that is your stupid fault), or live a lot farther from work than the average person and really need to move anyway.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I can’t not go to work for a week due to a cold snap.

    Are you working 100+ miles away from home? On a 300 mile per useful charge battery, you temporarily lose about 20% usefulness to extreme cold, that still leaves you with 270 total range. So assuming you work 100 miles away, and do zero charging at work, you'd still have 170 miles of range to get back home in the cold.

    If you can charge at work, this becomes even easier.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I've heard it's closer to 40% range loss. And yes, I do work that far away at times. Yes it's a separate issue how far I need to go, with no good solutions as my spouse works in the opposite direction.

    So 20% capacity loss due to age and add another 40% loss ( idk if that's true, but I've read it in articles on Lemmy) is a huge issue for some.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I’ve heard it’s closer to 40% range loss.

    Maybe at -40 degrees if you leave your car outside in the weather. Granted I park my EV in my garage and the coldest its been since I've owned it has been maybe -10 degrees F (-24 degrees C).

    So 20% capacity loss due to age

    20% from age you'd only see after 12 or more years. If you're charging at home instead of DC fast charging it will likely be less degradation that that even.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Interesting, glad to hear it takes that long to decrease that much. I also don't have a garage to charge in either.

    How much range did you lose at -10F? Where I live it isn't unusual to have stretches of -20 for a week at a time.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How much range did you lose at -10F?

    Thats the temporary 20% range reduction I referred to.

    Where I live it isn’t unusual to have stretches of -20 for a week at a time.

    Do you have block heaters for your ICE vehicles because of that cold and parking outside?

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