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DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android (mullvad.net)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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[+] -119 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Imagine using Android at this point

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Imagine making idiotic statements at this point.

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  • [+] -66 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Imagine being rude for no reason

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  • [+] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well idk about you but I did it many times unfortunately. Imagine accusing people in what you've done yourself I guess. Very pathetic indeed

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You’re not very self aware, are you?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Realistically speaking, I'm not. Technically speaking, accusing people in what I do too may not be considered bad but that depends on the culture. Anyways I didn't mean to be rude when I made that original comment. I still don't understand how was it rude. I guess it's my English knowledge that sucks again

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You said "imagine doing a thing" implying it was a really dumb idea... Like imagine eating a tidepod.... Crazy right?

    But it was "imagine using a android" which like 70% of the world uses... Now your implying 70% of the world is doing something so dumb it is surprising you.

    People sensibly ask you, what should they be using instead if they care about freedom etc, and your reply is use something that doesn't exist yet...

    So now the full circle is imagine doing a thing, crazy! , you should really be using something that doesn't exist yet.... You created a rhetorical situation thats impossible, and that's why people respond very negatively to you. Your logic is inconsistent.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    1. I didn't know the imagine phrase means it's stupid. I thought it's just judgment (e. g. imagine killing people). And I didn't even say it very seriously. I already explained the reason. If you care to actually be fair, read that

    2. In this case I understand why people would respond negatively but imo rudeness and general toxicity is not justified. These things are always bad. Well maybe except the cases when the other side acts the same way or is just evil and you use toxicity as a form of terminating the person's ability to hurt others. Though if what I said really was extremely rude, probably it's fair idk

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    I haven't been rude to you. Or at least I don't think I have been.

    I explained everything as clearly as I could.

    Remember with communication, it's not your intent it's the perception that's important. And yes your initial phrase came off as hostile and condescending

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  • [+] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I honesty don't understand the rudeness. What I said is unpopular as 8K monitors and I do think it can be downvoted but why being rude? I just don't want to participate in toxicity because then I become toxic too. Ignorance is the best in this case. And I use LineageOS that's based on Android btw

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, yes, I prefer desktop. But you know, in some countries some people have nothing else than phones. I am glad that Mullvad has posted this and hopefully Google can fix the bugs soon.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Are they interested in fixing it though?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Upvoted.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Huh why don't you just downvote everything I say like everyone else does?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, I didn't see the other comments till now, and wrote Upvoted as an alternative to Insightful which I was intending it to sound. I appreciated your comment because I think Google likely have their own priorities.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well yea I understand. I just didn't know what else to say. I didn't want to just upvote and not reply because I don't want to ignore nice (no I'm not saying that upvoting me makes you nice) people in this toxic and hopeless world. In the contrary I want to promote them. Though nobody (probably even myself) will believe in it after everything I've done and said here for various reasons. I guess it's an imagine being sus moment

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago

    All fine. Your comment where you mentioned autistic suddenly made me "understand" the let-s-call-them misunderstandings in this thread. And I agree about the toxic world, but we're all in the same boat, so I'd say we may as well be nice to each other at least a few seconds per day. Sometimes small things can make a big difference.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And use what? iOS?

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well iOS does have its advantages but tbh there are no fully usable alternatives for Android now. Hopefully Linux will get better on phones because I feel like we do need an alternative at this point

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well, we live in right now, and right now, mobile Linux just isn't suitable for many people, and the hardware that actually supports mobile Linux is a whole other story. It's certainly not possible to just not have a phone at all anymore, either. Calyx, Graphene and Lineage are the current best options. To say someone is stupid for using these is, well, stupid.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I didn't say that people who use Android are stupid and neither I intended to. What I meant is that Android is really enshittificated now. "It's certainly not possible to just not have a phone" is another story. I think relying on phones too much hurts people and the world a lot but again that's a whole new story

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Okay, but saying "Imagine using Android" paints a certain picture. And, yes, relying on phones is dangerous. It's not that it's impossible to live without a smartphone, it's that arbitrary systems have been put up in society that have created a large dependence on them.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Stock android is definitely enshitified - but there is still hope with custom os's

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Then its no longer stock?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That is the definition "stock" for me as well. What @Tundra@lemmy.ml mentions is the definition of "default". Big difference.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    LineageOS with Jerboa over Mullvad VPN here. Not many options on mobile devices.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    And Android runs a shit load of portable devices beyond phones.

    Most handheld store scanners are Android based today. Inventory management devices (like warehouses have used since the nineties) used to be Palm-based, are largely Android now, because it's core is Linux. They don't have to run the standard Android shell, they can run their own.

    I've used medical monitors that are Android based.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    All things I use, besides JavaScript on websites and firmware, is basically open source.
    I am lucky to use open protocols for communication only, as when deleting Facebook my friends were willing to use Matrix with me.
    I can do many many compromises.

    But still, I have OnePlus 6T with mobile Linux and absolutely cannot switch now. I would love to, but working camera and some alternative to Organic Maps is a must I cannot jump around when Android is "just" fine now.

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