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[+] -390 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Nothing is broken, people are choosing to not abide by the terms they accepted to when the bought the game.

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  • [–] 112 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • [+] -250 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    So for those who can’t have a PSN account the failure was on them for buying the game anyway, since it was included on the store page, terms, and shows up on launch. Now, I agree they should get a refund if it locks them out the game. For the rest of the caterwauling, what will they do when Steam denies their refund after playing 200hours? Boycott Steam?

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  • [–] 127 points 2 years ago

    File support tickets directly with Arrowhead

    https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

    File a complaint with your local government body, I believe in Australia it is illegal to break a game after the fact. To substantially change how it runs to hold it hostage.

    But even in other jurisdictions, even 1, 000 disgruntled gamers filing small claims against arrowhead would consume an outsized amount of resources to respond to.

    Make noise, be disgruntled, don't play the game, file a negative review, create busy work for the perpetrators. They're stealing time and money from you, it's fair to do it to them. But legally

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  • [+] -134 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I’ve been called worse by better people. People who don’t read things that they are agreeing to and then complain they don’t like it after the fact should take the lesson and move on.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If your replying to this thread on mobile, I would like to remind you that you never read the EULA to your phone either (this would have taken several hours for android and slightly less for iOS) . You just saw the blurp "accept terms and conditions" and moved on with your life like everyone else did. There is no expectation to read usage contracts for small, non-bussiness purchases.

    Also, your opposition to this discourse is futile... The ball is in Sony/Arrowheads court. We will see if they compromise with players in eastern europe, or double down to become the next Battlefront 2 (pride and accomplishment yall!). As for me, ill let the paint dry and move on if I feel they resolved this poorly. Lets see if EDF6 can stick the landing.

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  • [+] -47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It wasn’t hidden in some legalese riddled document. It was listed on the store page on the right side where they put all the requirements for outside accounts. I get there are people who don’t want to have to install other launchers and make other accounts, but it was there. To complain that they are now enforcing it when it was obviously disclosed and claim it was a bait and switch are wrong.

    Should they have sold it to countries Sony doesn’t serve? Obviously not.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    So to be clear: this is not an argument for the requirement to be logged in to PSN. At no point are you arguing any value or purpose to it.

    As such, it's also not an argument against the negative reviews. Even if "people should have known before purchasing it" if the negative reviews are because of the PSN requirement, that is still valid.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago

    terms,

    It's not in either terms linked on the steam store page. There's no mention of a requirement to use PSN's networks or to link your steam and PSN account in either EULA. It's ONLY the banner on the steam page. And nothing in game makes it clear that skipping the login is only a temporary thing.

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  • [–] 75 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    the virgin EULA worshipper vs the chad consumer rights advocate

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago*

    This is the reason I didn't buy the game, but people bought it and now they're angry they're enforcing it?

    You're totally right, except for the people from the countries that don't get PSN. How is it legal to sell them the game in the first place if they can't meet the requirements to play? Scummy move.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    It's not in the EULAs pertaining to this game, and Sony changed their PC Games FAQ on May 3rd after the announcement that PSN would be required, meaning the FAQ people read when they bought the game is different from the one Sony is trying to enforce.

    Before:

    After:

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  • [+] -47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The Ol' hivemind. I type this will dropping in to kill some bug hives.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    "anyone who disagrees with me are part of the 'hive mind', the only way to not be part of a hive mind is if you agree with all the things I believe. You know, like some sort of hive mind."

    Nah man, it's just a bunch of individuals that happen to agree that you're an idiot.

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