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Sup is a New Messaging App by the Creator of Pixelfed (wedistribute.org)
submitted 2 years ago by [M] to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
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A new messaging app is in development, and the project is described as "an open source WhatsApp for the Fediverse."

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[–] 15 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

IRC is only "outdated" if you make it so by using outdated networks like libera.chat that refuse to implement the newer standards that have been available for years.

Oh and XMPP is a thing and works great.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For some weird reason many people just plain ignore the existance of XMPP when they're discussing decentralized protocols. Is it because Matrix outshadowed it?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    There is this wierd meme that IRC is "outdated" and XMPP is "dead", both of which is completely untrue, but somehow the tech-bro hivemind continues to spout this nonsense when ever the topic comes up.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    AFAIK the most complained about thing with xmpp is that there are so many standards and every server isn't guaranteed to implement them. That and just being old which is no curse but people take that as a negative sometimes.

    It's honestly pretty good IMO.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    XMPP is fantastic, but I feel as though it suffers from half-baked clients, most of which are a decade old and look the part.

    I'd really love to see a "modern" WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven't found any. Admittedly, I haven't looked in some time.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Give it another look. The popular Android client Conversations is getting an UI overhaul right now (unreleased), Monal for iOS has also improved a lot, and this is a promising looking take on a Telegram like UI: https://moxxy.org/

    Dino and Gajim also improved a lot on the desktop side. Overall there is some renewed interest by client developers and the Jabber federation is growing again I think.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    @deadsuperhero
    I agree, I use xmpp all the time, but the clients are really underwhelming... Not sure how it's so complicated to give them a facelift to update them while keeping the existing functionality. This reminds me of the debates about the #blender ui in the past, where gray beards argued that the interface was just fine....aesthetics matter;)
    @poVoq

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Same with K9. But they did finally a really good facelift.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    @Samsy
    I'll need to take a look, I haven't used k9 in ages

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