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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 16 points 2 years ago (3 children) Being pro-Israel and being pro-Palestine are mutually exclusive positions since Israel is genociding Palestine. That's like saying you can be pro Nazi and pro jew. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mostly agree in fact, however in definition it isn't true. Israel is a nation that could exist in many other forms. It doesn't have to do what it's doing. It's not the same as "pro-Nazi" because Nazism is an ideology, not a nation. A nation doesn't have any set ideals, only a set of people and borders it represents. You can be anti-Nazi and pro-Germany because Nazis didn't define Germany. They were Nazis at one point in time but are now represented by totally different ideals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Agreed permalink fedilink source parent [–] prowess2956@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Socially Jew, economically Nazi? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it would be like Finland allying with Germany because they had to be against Russia But I didn’t say pro-Palestine, I said pro-Palestinian which you clearly know the difference since you had to change it to make your point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You just proved my point. The Finland/Germany/Russia comparison only fits with 'Palestine'. The Nazi/Jews comparison is accurate with 'Palestinian'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Would it be easier if I said “Finnish” instead of Finland? If the US backs Palestine do you honestly believe they will turn against all their allies to aid American security of the region and be Israel 2.0? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That is irrelevant to the conversation. The state of Israel is currently genociding Palestinians. You can't support the state of Israel and support the Palestinian people at the same time. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh lol It’s quite easy, you pressure your ally to stop that and to elevate the status of Palestinians in society Send humanitarian aid and doctors to Palestine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mostly agree in fact, however in definition it isn't true. Israel is a nation that could exist in many other forms. It doesn't have to do what it's doing. It's not the same as "pro-Nazi" because Nazism is an ideology, not a nation. A nation doesn't have any set ideals, only a set of people and borders it represents. You can be anti-Nazi and pro-Germany because Nazis didn't define Germany. They were Nazis at one point in time but are now represented by totally different ideals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago Agreed permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prowess2956@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago Socially Jew, economically Nazi? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) No it would be like Finland allying with Germany because they had to be against Russia But I didn’t say pro-Palestine, I said pro-Palestinian which you clearly know the difference since you had to change it to make your point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You just proved my point. The Finland/Germany/Russia comparison only fits with 'Palestine'. The Nazi/Jews comparison is accurate with 'Palestinian'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Would it be easier if I said “Finnish” instead of Finland? If the US backs Palestine do you honestly believe they will turn against all their allies to aid American security of the region and be Israel 2.0? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That is irrelevant to the conversation. The state of Israel is currently genociding Palestinians. You can't support the state of Israel and support the Palestinian people at the same time. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh lol It’s quite easy, you pressure your ally to stop that and to elevate the status of Palestinians in society Send humanitarian aid and doctors to Palestine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You just proved my point. The Finland/Germany/Russia comparison only fits with 'Palestine'. The Nazi/Jews comparison is accurate with 'Palestinian'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Would it be easier if I said “Finnish” instead of Finland? If the US backs Palestine do you honestly believe they will turn against all their allies to aid American security of the region and be Israel 2.0? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That is irrelevant to the conversation. The state of Israel is currently genociding Palestinians. You can't support the state of Israel and support the Palestinian people at the same time. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh lol It’s quite easy, you pressure your ally to stop that and to elevate the status of Palestinians in society Send humanitarian aid and doctors to Palestine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Would it be easier if I said “Finnish” instead of Finland? If the US backs Palestine do you honestly believe they will turn against all their allies to aid American security of the region and be Israel 2.0? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That is irrelevant to the conversation. The state of Israel is currently genociding Palestinians. You can't support the state of Israel and support the Palestinian people at the same time. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh lol It’s quite easy, you pressure your ally to stop that and to elevate the status of Palestinians in society Send humanitarian aid and doctors to Palestine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) That is irrelevant to the conversation. The state of Israel is currently genociding Palestinians. You can't support the state of Israel and support the Palestinian people at the same time. Full stop. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh lol It’s quite easy, you pressure your ally to stop that and to elevate the status of Palestinians in society Send humanitarian aid and doctors to Palestine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Oh lol It’s quite easy, you pressure your ally to stop that and to elevate the status of Palestinians in society Send humanitarian aid and doctors to Palestine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 1 point 2 years ago We have. Israel attacks the convoys. Being pro Israel means you support the genocide they're committing. permalink fedilink source parent