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ByteDance won't sell TikTok, would rather pull it from the US (www.androidauthority.com)
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[–] 24 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Dude, I was there for when Vine was born and for when it died, and Vine didn't even get picked up for mass disinformation, and y'know what? Life moved on. If you think that makes me old and out of touch then fine.

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  • [+] -35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I think it's sad that you're all just ok with this kind of blatant government overreach to protect corporate pockets tbh. You just go along with the disinformation thing without an ounce of critical thought because you didn't like the app lol. I guess I just expected better of this community but I was wrong. I think lemmy just got the reddit boomers that are in denial about being boomers. It seems like it's just an alternative retirement site to facebook for y'all. So have fun with that I guess.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Am I a Reddit boomer when I’m 21 and like (some) Tiktok-esque kind of content?

    I’ve never used TikTok, but not because I don’t get the idea of using audio as meme template or because I don’t like short videos. But just because that specific platform itself is so vile.
    Not just talking about funding the Chinese government, TikTok e.g. reduces reach of neurodivergent people. Even worse, it censors information against China‘s authoritarianism and much more.

    Why can’t I be happy that this awful platform loses reach? The content itself will be kept, there are enough copycats.

    Also, Lemmy is full of people that stopped using Reddit for ethical reasons. So it’s not surprising many are against TikTok as well tbh.

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  • [+] -33 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, definitely a boomer in vibes if not in age. Sorry. Everything you said is basically wrong. You're just repeating what others have said without putting a single bit of effort into confirming anything but your own bias.

    Ethical reasons lmao. You all just laughed while our government illegally targeted one company with legislation to get rid of competition for big corporations like meta/google. Don't pretend to be doing any of this for any kind of moral high ground when you can't even be bothered to look into something before arguing for it. You're just useful tools happily guzzling their bs excuse of it being for our security because that's what you want to believe.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    Greed on Capitol Hill is not new and a huge problem. Big tech does need to get broken up. But are you trying to say TikTok and ByteDance and their backers are small corporations and mom and pop shops??

    Scrutiny over ByteDance expanded further after the government took a 1% stake in its local subsidiary Beijing ByteDance Technology in 2019 that awarded the Chinese government a board seat at the subsidiary. https://www.inc.com/reuters/what-you-need-to-know-about-tiktoks-chinese-parent-company-bytedance.html

    About 60% of ByteDance is owned by global institutional investors such as Carlyle Group, General Atlantic, and Susquehanna International Group,"

    Wiki stuff:

    Carlyle Group The Carlyle Group Inc. is a multinational private equity, alternative asset management and financial services corporation based in the United States with $376 billion of assets under management.

    General Atlantic General Atlantic, legal main entity General Atlantic Service Company, L.P., is an American growth equity firm providing capital and strategic support for global growth companies, headquartered in New York, United States. The firm was founded in 1980 as the captive investment team for Atlantic Philanthropies, a philanthropic organization founded by Charles F. Feeney, the billionaire co-founder of Duty Free Shoppers Ltd.

    Susquehanna International Group The firm invested $5 million into ByteDance, the parent company of TikTok, in 2012 when ByteDance was founded. As of 2020, its stake in ByteDance represented 15 percent of its fully-diluted capitalization table and was valued over $15 billion on paper.[9]

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I don't get your point. I'm against tech monopolies and I hate Google. I want Facebook to be split up and think that the current tech companies are way to powerful, see this video by Last Week Tonight. I use duckduckgo and try to avoid google services.

    Don’t pretend to be doing any of this for any kind of moral high ground when you can’t even be bothered to look into something before arguing for it.

    Lmao. How would you get the thought I wouldn't have "looked into this". That sounds like antivax level of arguments.

    Everything you said is basically wrong.

    And this gives me the feeling I'm much better informed than you tbh.
    Because no, what I wrote is factually correct, read for example this, this or this or just so many more articles, outlining detailed how TikTok censors content made by minorities, talking about the Uighur camps or so much more.

    I feel like you can't grasp the thought that someone knows how bad many tech companies are and still can see that content behind TikTok is at least as terrible. And what I'm writing isn't any more boomer-like than what you write, you even use the same talking points but are just ignoring any of TikTok's flaws.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Which corporation's profits do you think banning TikTok is intended to protect?

    Also, "boomer" is a specific group of people and applying that term to everyone who doesn't agree with you makes it pretty damn silly and meaningless.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago*

    YouTube and Instagram have features that are in direct competition with TikTok. YouTube has even been more aggressive in promoting themselves as the TikTok alternative. On top of that the US government has an incentive to keep them (Google and Meta) happy; since the US routinely spies on its own (and other countries) citizens through these companies.

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  • [+] -14 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    One of the guys that wrote the bill invests heavily in meta and invested even more in March after putting forward the new bill that recently passed to ban it... But I'm sure that's TOTALLY just a coincidence lmao. Mike McCaul. Not to mention google's potential benefit for getting rid of a major competitor but they'd never meddle with our government right?

    A boomer is someone that's out of touch and hateful/distrustful of things they don't understand. It's a mentality. If you weren't a boomer you'd know that

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I mean they're literally just the guys who read about like, say, 4chan being bad, right, but then never actually use the site itself to see. I mean, yeah, if you go on /pol/ or /r9k/, and then scroll around for like 5 minutes, you can find some content that's going to reinforce your bias that the site is kind of an ontologically evil fascist hellscape, but if you go on /mu/ it's gonna be no more toxic than basically any other forum you could go on. It's just people thoughtlessly parroting the narratives that they've heard from other people.

    I don't like tiktok, I don't like lemmy, I kind of hate social media even though it's like infested my life because I have no self control, but I'm not gonna be like. This is such an epic pog moment! I'm so pegged outta my gourd! when it gets banned. Because I've used it, thoroughly, not just first glance, and I actually understand the pros and cons of the platform. These guys don't have that, they only have like, the white stale wonderbread and wood chips of social media usage, they only have reddit, and even more libbed up privacy reddit, i.e. the most obvious and in your face social media platforms of all time that give you (ostensibly, in practice, it's the opposite) a very high amount of control over what they're seeing. Of course they hate tiktok. On top of the brainrot privacy concerns they all probably have, they're gonna discard it on the basis that they don't have the self-control to use its platform, and project that onto everyone else. It's like a puritan hating coffee, or cocaine, without understanding that it's a great morning drink, or without understanding that it makes pro wrestling promos wayyyyy fucking better.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    if you go on /mu/ it's gonna be no more toxic than basically any other forum you could go on.

    I used to go on /mu/, and yes, it's unbelievably toxic. I'm glad I don't use 4chan anymore.

    And this was long before all the QAnon shit happened.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Really? I went on it like I wanna say two or three months ago and it wasn't that bad. You had a couple troll threads, obviously, because (you)s and getting your thread bumped are what the platform incentivizes over anything else, but it didn't seem that bad.

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