▲ 390 ▼ Russian soldier admits proudly his comrades were killing POWs (euromaidanpress.com) submitted 2 years ago by SeaJ@lemm.ee to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 117 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) What the fuck... permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -99 points 2 years ago (3 children) War is ugly. That's probably happening on both sides. You try not killing a guy that's was shooting to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marx2k@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) POWs typically aren't shooting to kill you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -45 points 2 years ago That's after you whip thier ass permalink fedilink source parent [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -76 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then don't bomb Russian civilians and they won't fight back permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bombing Russian civilians bad, bombing Ukrainian civilians good, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -89 points 2 years ago (4 children) Since Ukraine started the fight by attacking ethnic Russians and murdering civilians in the Donbass then don't be surprised when Russia defends it's people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (4 children) Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? Until you do, gtfo with "they're probably both doing it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Actually, there have been very disturbing videos from both Russians and Ukrainians, featuring gruesome deaths of people quite definitely unarmed and taken PoW. Mostly from Russians, but not every one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? If they have half a brain they probably wouldn't admit to that as it would be self-incriminating.🤣 permalink fedilink source parent [+] chowder@lemmy.one -13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Eh, there is some evidence of it occurring here and there. I think I have seen like 5 or 6 of Ukrainians torturing or killing POWs. If you want, I can go get some links to videos and news articles. It's pretty rare and seems way more prevalent on the Russian side, who have filmed themselves committing some truly barbaric things, including emasculations and decapitations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago Well maybe. Humans are the worst. However we have evidence that russia is killing more than taking prisoners and kidnapping children. Also every information we get about this war is most probably placed in the internet on purpose. You can't trust either Ukraine or Russian news. permalink fedilink source parent [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -49 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Those are Ukranians, both of them, no Russian would say that and since none of you know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian it's too easy to fool people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they're Ukrainians, why the interviewer says "Добрый день", in Russian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "je") instead of "Хороший день" or "Добрий ранок", in Ukrainian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "e")? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Unkn8wn69@monero.town 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. All my Ukrainian friends only speak Russian online because they can reach more people through it. They aren't bound to speaking Ukrainian only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Unkn8wn69@monero.town -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Yes and you can neither trust the western news. The Nato and the west uses the conflict to their own purposes. Like every country does. This fight between Russia and the West isn't new. We've seen it long before. I totally disagree with the war but i also find it irresponsible to only speak up when "bad commie Russia" does something. But when the US kills thousands of civilians in completely unjustified wars around the world nobody cares in the west. Since the fall of the Warsaw pact there is no more any justification for the existence of the Nato alliance. I'm anti-war and i think this should end as quickly as it began but what Zelensky is doing is no more than selling out his country to the west. For the next centuries Ukraine will be in debt to the western nations and by that, enslaved by them. If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. Everyone has to make compromises in this war. No side will have a total win, but a first world war like trench war that takes years isn't helpful to neither of the sides. Only more people will die. What is more important, that the people live in Russian donbass or Ukrainian donbass, or that the people will die. Also the west doesn't care about Ukraine, all they care about is hurting Russia. Some years back nobody in Europe or Nato would've considered Ukraine as a viable partner. Now out of nowhere they do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. The agreement being Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine you. fucking. invaders. permalink fedilink source parent [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I served in Iraq. Shooting an unarmed combatant is murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I never said it wasn't, I just said shit like that happens during war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it totally doesn't happen. I highly doubt you even served..... https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-troops-seen-killing-russian-pows-video-1695896 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago No, you said you assumed shit like that happens during war on both sides. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -99 points 2 years ago (3 children) War is ugly. That's probably happening on both sides. You try not killing a guy that's was shooting to kill you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marx2k@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) POWs typically aren't shooting to kill you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -45 points 2 years ago That's after you whip thier ass permalink fedilink source parent [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -76 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then don't bomb Russian civilians and they won't fight back permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bombing Russian civilians bad, bombing Ukrainian civilians good, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -89 points 2 years ago (4 children) Since Ukraine started the fight by attacking ethnic Russians and murdering civilians in the Donbass then don't be surprised when Russia defends it's people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent [–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (4 children) Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? Until you do, gtfo with "they're probably both doing it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Actually, there have been very disturbing videos from both Russians and Ukrainians, featuring gruesome deaths of people quite definitely unarmed and taken PoW. Mostly from Russians, but not every one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? If they have half a brain they probably wouldn't admit to that as it would be self-incriminating.🤣 permalink fedilink source parent [+] chowder@lemmy.one -13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Eh, there is some evidence of it occurring here and there. I think I have seen like 5 or 6 of Ukrainians torturing or killing POWs. If you want, I can go get some links to videos and news articles. It's pretty rare and seems way more prevalent on the Russian side, who have filmed themselves committing some truly barbaric things, including emasculations and decapitations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago Well maybe. Humans are the worst. However we have evidence that russia is killing more than taking prisoners and kidnapping children. Also every information we get about this war is most probably placed in the internet on purpose. You can't trust either Ukraine or Russian news. permalink fedilink source parent [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -49 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Those are Ukranians, both of them, no Russian would say that and since none of you know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian it's too easy to fool people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they're Ukrainians, why the interviewer says "Добрый день", in Russian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "je") instead of "Хороший день" or "Добрий ранок", in Ukrainian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "e")? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Unkn8wn69@monero.town 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. All my Ukrainian friends only speak Russian online because they can reach more people through it. They aren't bound to speaking Ukrainian only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Unkn8wn69@monero.town -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Yes and you can neither trust the western news. The Nato and the west uses the conflict to their own purposes. Like every country does. This fight between Russia and the West isn't new. We've seen it long before. I totally disagree with the war but i also find it irresponsible to only speak up when "bad commie Russia" does something. But when the US kills thousands of civilians in completely unjustified wars around the world nobody cares in the west. Since the fall of the Warsaw pact there is no more any justification for the existence of the Nato alliance. I'm anti-war and i think this should end as quickly as it began but what Zelensky is doing is no more than selling out his country to the west. For the next centuries Ukraine will be in debt to the western nations and by that, enslaved by them. If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. Everyone has to make compromises in this war. No side will have a total win, but a first world war like trench war that takes years isn't helpful to neither of the sides. Only more people will die. What is more important, that the people live in Russian donbass or Ukrainian donbass, or that the people will die. Also the west doesn't care about Ukraine, all they care about is hurting Russia. Some years back nobody in Europe or Nato would've considered Ukraine as a viable partner. Now out of nowhere they do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. The agreement being Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine you. fucking. invaders. permalink fedilink source parent [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I served in Iraq. Shooting an unarmed combatant is murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I never said it wasn't, I just said shit like that happens during war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it totally doesn't happen. I highly doubt you even served..... https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-troops-seen-killing-russian-pows-video-1695896 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago No, you said you assumed shit like that happens during war on both sides. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (2 children) POWs typically aren't shooting to kill you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -45 points 2 years ago That's after you whip thier ass permalink fedilink source parent [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -76 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then don't bomb Russian civilians and they won't fight back permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bombing Russian civilians bad, bombing Ukrainian civilians good, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -89 points 2 years ago (4 children) Since Ukraine started the fight by attacking ethnic Russians and murdering civilians in the Donbass then don't be surprised when Russia defends it's people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -45 points 2 years ago That's after you whip thier ass permalink fedilink source parent
[+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -76 points 2 years ago (1 child) Then don't bomb Russian civilians and they won't fight back permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bombing Russian civilians bad, bombing Ukrainian civilians good, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -89 points 2 years ago (4 children) Since Ukraine started the fight by attacking ethnic Russians and murdering civilians in the Donbass then don't be surprised when Russia defends it's people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 47 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bombing Russian civilians bad, bombing Ukrainian civilians good, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -89 points 2 years ago (4 children) Since Ukraine started the fight by attacking ethnic Russians and murdering civilians in the Donbass then don't be surprised when Russia defends it's people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -89 points 2 years ago (4 children) Since Ukraine started the fight by attacking ethnic Russians and murdering civilians in the Donbass then don't be surprised when Russia defends it's people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (2 children) Victims of “Donbas genocide” were paid actors, Prigozhin’s fired trolls reveal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago alex jones moment permalink fedilink source parent [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Do you have a less biased source than Euromaiden press lol? I don't disbelieve you, just not exactly unbiased permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Girl killed in Ukraine 'never existed' - BBC News Ridiculous lie on Russian TV: a child was crucified in Ukraine Fake: Crucifixion in Slovyansk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks [B] 3 points 2 years ago Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=HW-4a0P8sjs https://piped.video/watch?v=Xf8Gt2Wnv74 Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube. I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) It sure didn't take long for the Russian troll bots to show up on Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago They were already here. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago Killing POWs is not defending its people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago If by "defends its people" you mean "uses it as an excuse to invade the entire country of Ukraine" then... sure. You know the ground war would stop immediately if Russia got out of Ukraine, yes? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (4 children) Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? Until you do, gtfo with "they're probably both doing it" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Actually, there have been very disturbing videos from both Russians and Ukrainians, featuring gruesome deaths of people quite definitely unarmed and taken PoW. Mostly from Russians, but not every one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? If they have half a brain they probably wouldn't admit to that as it would be self-incriminating.🤣 permalink fedilink source parent [+] chowder@lemmy.one -13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Eh, there is some evidence of it occurring here and there. I think I have seen like 5 or 6 of Ukrainians torturing or killing POWs. If you want, I can go get some links to videos and news articles. It's pretty rare and seems way more prevalent on the Russian side, who have filmed themselves committing some truly barbaric things, including emasculations and decapitations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago Well maybe. Humans are the worst. However we have evidence that russia is killing more than taking prisoners and kidnapping children. Also every information we get about this war is most probably placed in the internet on purpose. You can't trust either Ukraine or Russian news. permalink fedilink source parent [+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -49 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Those are Ukranians, both of them, no Russian would say that and since none of you know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian it's too easy to fool people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they're Ukrainians, why the interviewer says "Добрый день", in Russian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "je") instead of "Хороший день" or "Добрий ранок", in Ukrainian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "e")? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Unkn8wn69@monero.town 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. All my Ukrainian friends only speak Russian online because they can reach more people through it. They aren't bound to speaking Ukrainian only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Unkn8wn69@monero.town -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Yes and you can neither trust the western news. The Nato and the west uses the conflict to their own purposes. Like every country does. This fight between Russia and the West isn't new. We've seen it long before. I totally disagree with the war but i also find it irresponsible to only speak up when "bad commie Russia" does something. But when the US kills thousands of civilians in completely unjustified wars around the world nobody cares in the west. Since the fall of the Warsaw pact there is no more any justification for the existence of the Nato alliance. I'm anti-war and i think this should end as quickly as it began but what Zelensky is doing is no more than selling out his country to the west. For the next centuries Ukraine will be in debt to the western nations and by that, enslaved by them. If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. Everyone has to make compromises in this war. No side will have a total win, but a first world war like trench war that takes years isn't helpful to neither of the sides. Only more people will die. What is more important, that the people live in Russian donbass or Ukrainian donbass, or that the people will die. Also the west doesn't care about Ukraine, all they care about is hurting Russia. Some years back nobody in Europe or Nato would've considered Ukraine as a viable partner. Now out of nowhere they do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. The agreement being Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine you. fucking. invaders. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 point 2 years ago Actually, there have been very disturbing videos from both Russians and Ukrainians, featuring gruesome deaths of people quite definitely unarmed and taken PoW. Mostly from Russians, but not every one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Got any testimony from Ukraine soldiers saying they kill POWs? If they have half a brain they probably wouldn't admit to that as it would be self-incriminating.🤣 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] chowder@lemmy.one -13 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Eh, there is some evidence of it occurring here and there. I think I have seen like 5 or 6 of Ukrainians torturing or killing POWs. If you want, I can go get some links to videos and news articles. It's pretty rare and seems way more prevalent on the Russian side, who have filmed themselves committing some truly barbaric things, including emasculations and decapitations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago Well maybe. Humans are the worst. However we have evidence that russia is killing more than taking prisoners and kidnapping children. Also every information we get about this war is most probably placed in the internet on purpose. You can't trust either Ukraine or Russian news. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Johanno@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago Well maybe. Humans are the worst. However we have evidence that russia is killing more than taking prisoners and kidnapping children. Also every information we get about this war is most probably placed in the internet on purpose. You can't trust either Ukraine or Russian news. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone -49 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Those are Ukranians, both of them, no Russian would say that and since none of you know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian it's too easy to fool people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they're Ukrainians, why the interviewer says "Добрый день", in Russian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "je") instead of "Хороший день" or "Добрий ранок", in Ukrainian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "e")? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Unkn8wn69@monero.town 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. All my Ukrainian friends only speak Russian online because they can reach more people through it. They aren't bound to speaking Ukrainian only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Unkn8wn69@monero.town -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Yes and you can neither trust the western news. The Nato and the west uses the conflict to their own purposes. Like every country does. This fight between Russia and the West isn't new. We've seen it long before. I totally disagree with the war but i also find it irresponsible to only speak up when "bad commie Russia" does something. But when the US kills thousands of civilians in completely unjustified wars around the world nobody cares in the west. Since the fall of the Warsaw pact there is no more any justification for the existence of the Nato alliance. I'm anti-war and i think this should end as quickly as it began but what Zelensky is doing is no more than selling out his country to the west. For the next centuries Ukraine will be in debt to the western nations and by that, enslaved by them. If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. Everyone has to make compromises in this war. No side will have a total win, but a first world war like trench war that takes years isn't helpful to neither of the sides. Only more people will die. What is more important, that the people live in Russian donbass or Ukrainian donbass, or that the people will die. Also the west doesn't care about Ukraine, all they care about is hurting Russia. Some years back nobody in Europe or Nato would've considered Ukraine as a viable partner. Now out of nowhere they do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. The agreement being Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine you. fucking. invaders. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If they're Ukrainians, why the interviewer says "Добрый день", in Russian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "je") instead of "Хороший день" or "Добрий ранок", in Ukrainian (notice how the "e" is pronounced "e")? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Unkn8wn69@monero.town 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. All my Ukrainian friends only speak Russian online because they can reach more people through it. They aren't bound to speaking Ukrainian only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Unkn8wn69@monero.town 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Most Ukrainians also speak Russian. All my Ukrainian friends only speak Russian online because they can reach more people through it. They aren't bound to speaking Ukrainian only. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ignacio@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago OC said none of us know the difference between Russian and Ukrainian. I proved that person wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Unkn8wn69@monero.town -12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Yes and you can neither trust the western news. The Nato and the west uses the conflict to their own purposes. Like every country does. This fight between Russia and the West isn't new. We've seen it long before. I totally disagree with the war but i also find it irresponsible to only speak up when "bad commie Russia" does something. But when the US kills thousands of civilians in completely unjustified wars around the world nobody cares in the west. Since the fall of the Warsaw pact there is no more any justification for the existence of the Nato alliance. I'm anti-war and i think this should end as quickly as it began but what Zelensky is doing is no more than selling out his country to the west. For the next centuries Ukraine will be in debt to the western nations and by that, enslaved by them. If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. Everyone has to make compromises in this war. No side will have a total win, but a first world war like trench war that takes years isn't helpful to neither of the sides. Only more people will die. What is more important, that the people live in Russian donbass or Ukrainian donbass, or that the people will die. Also the west doesn't care about Ukraine, all they care about is hurting Russia. Some years back nobody in Europe or Nato would've considered Ukraine as a viable partner. Now out of nowhere they do permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. The agreement being Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine you. fucking. invaders. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePac@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) If zelensky would care about his people he would come to the table and find an agreement with the other side. The agreement being Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine you. fucking. invaders. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) I served in Iraq. Shooting an unarmed combatant is murder. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I never said it wasn't, I just said shit like that happens during war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it totally doesn't happen. I highly doubt you even served..... https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-troops-seen-killing-russian-pows-video-1695896 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago No, you said you assumed shit like that happens during war on both sides. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -17 points 2 years ago (2 children) I never said it wasn't, I just said shit like that happens during war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it totally doesn't happen. I highly doubt you even served..... https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-troops-seen-killing-russian-pows-video-1695896 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago No, you said you assumed shit like that happens during war on both sides. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it totally doesn't happen. I highly doubt you even served..... https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-troops-seen-killing-russian-pows-video-1695896 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it totally doesn't happen. I highly doubt you even served..... https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-troops-seen-killing-russian-pows-video-1695896 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billy_bollocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago 2ID 2d BCT 44 Eng Btn - 2004 2008 You’re an angry white male who hates the fact he is obsolete & the rest of the world has moved on without you. You’ll never get ahead and nobody cares except you. Grow up and serve if you think you’re a patriot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago No, you said you assumed shit like that happens during war on both sides. permalink fedilink source parent