▲ 482 ▼ People Are Slowly Realizing Their Auto Insurance Rates Are Skyrocketing Because Their Car Is Covertly Spying On Them (www.techdirt.com) submitted 2 years ago by Glass0448@lemmy.today to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 127 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (7 children) My vehicle is not trackable but my insurance tripled in two years so there is more going on than data harvesting permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago The article alleges, though without evidence, that the tracking is just an excuse to raise rates. A quick search didn't turn up quite the right statistics, but traffic fatalities have been seriously on the rise in the US. That probably implies higher payouts. (WP) But also, when trackable unsafe drivers have to pay more (and trackable safe driver less), then the unsafe drivers will prefer to be untrackable. You may be on the receiving end of the recalculated actuary tables. permalink fedilink source parent [–] whereisk@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Untrackable might mean you get lumped with the worst actuary table in terms of risk as an unknown quantity or as a form of pressure to let them track you or as a way to create a defence moat of people (your rates will go up like these untrackable vehicles) if the government tries to intervene to stop them from basing rates to tracking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) “Cost of living”. Sure people will start getting inflation beating payrises soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cost of living for the shareholders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone should just become a shareholder, we will all be rich then… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You can be. Probably pretty cheaply. The problem is that there’s shareholders like you and I, then there’s Shareholders that make millions with a point or two tick up in stock value. The latter are the ones I’m referring to. You and I owning tens or a few hundred shares don’t rate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Mine nearly doubled over 2 years. They cited increased costs of parts and repair work. Might be true, might not be. Might be they increased prices more than their costs did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] You999@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your car might not be trackable but do you use Google maps or Waze? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A lot more than i used to. I imagine there are hundreds of ways the public has layed themselves open for exploitation permalink fedilink source parent [–] Glass0448@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 2 years ago Your phone isn't trackable? You avoided all the license plate scanners? Your work/home has a higher rate of accidents between them? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago The article alleges, though without evidence, that the tracking is just an excuse to raise rates. A quick search didn't turn up quite the right statistics, but traffic fatalities have been seriously on the rise in the US. That probably implies higher payouts. (WP) But also, when trackable unsafe drivers have to pay more (and trackable safe driver less), then the unsafe drivers will prefer to be untrackable. You may be on the receiving end of the recalculated actuary tables. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Untrackable might mean you get lumped with the worst actuary table in terms of risk as an unknown quantity or as a form of pressure to let them track you or as a way to create a defence moat of people (your rates will go up like these untrackable vehicles) if the government tries to intervene to stop them from basing rates to tracking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) “Cost of living”. Sure people will start getting inflation beating payrises soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cost of living for the shareholders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone should just become a shareholder, we will all be rich then… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You can be. Probably pretty cheaply. The problem is that there’s shareholders like you and I, then there’s Shareholders that make millions with a point or two tick up in stock value. The latter are the ones I’m referring to. You and I owning tens or a few hundred shares don’t rate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cost of living for the shareholders. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone should just become a shareholder, we will all be rich then… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You can be. Probably pretty cheaply. The problem is that there’s shareholders like you and I, then there’s Shareholders that make millions with a point or two tick up in stock value. The latter are the ones I’m referring to. You and I owning tens or a few hundred shares don’t rate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone should just become a shareholder, we will all be rich then… permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You can be. Probably pretty cheaply. The problem is that there’s shareholders like you and I, then there’s Shareholders that make millions with a point or two tick up in stock value. The latter are the ones I’m referring to. You and I owning tens or a few hundred shares don’t rate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago You can be. Probably pretty cheaply. The problem is that there’s shareholders like you and I, then there’s Shareholders that make millions with a point or two tick up in stock value. The latter are the ones I’m referring to. You and I owning tens or a few hundred shares don’t rate. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 10 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Mine nearly doubled over 2 years. They cited increased costs of parts and repair work. Might be true, might not be. Might be they increased prices more than their costs did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Your car might not be trackable but do you use Google maps or Waze? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A lot more than i used to. I imagine there are hundreds of ways the public has layed themselves open for exploitation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago A lot more than i used to. I imagine there are hundreds of ways the public has layed themselves open for exploitation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glass0448@lemmy.today [S] 1 point 2 years ago Your phone isn't trackable? You avoided all the license plate scanners? Your work/home has a higher rate of accidents between them? permalink fedilink source parent