▲ 552 ▼ Ohio teen dubbed 'hell on wheels' after killing her boyfriend and his friend in a crash is sentenced to 15 years to life (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 212 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] bane_killgrind@kbin.social -14 points 2 years ago (3 children) Being 17, I'd attribute some of the blame to her parents or whomever owns that vehicle. Is driving recklessly really the only symptom of being this emotionally deregulated? Did they not know how stupid or mentally ill she is? I bet the adults around her did not care or excused her behaviour. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SamboT@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago I bet her dad was a party clown who was hoping this would happen. Like where the fuck do you get all of these assumptions from? permalink fedilink source parent [–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's fine, but she still made a conscious decision to do it. If she was one year older, would that make any kind of difference? And let me be clear: mental illness can make some behaviors more understandable, but not murder– if the blame is put solely on mental illness, all that does is put more stigma on it. Not every shitty decision people make is because of "mental illness". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why only murder? Why not rape or assault or abuse or any number of different crimes deeply mentally ill people commit on the regular that ruin lives far more deeply than the death of a loved one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure you know what the word "reactionary" means if you think that my comments and opinions were "reactionary". The family can grieve, and my opinion has no bearing on the outcome of whatever happens. My point was, in the end, no matter what the reason, there needs to be consequences for someone who killed people, regardless of what the grieving parties think. I don't think that's particularly radical. It's a sad and awful situation al around. I can see why those poor families just want to move on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Did they not know how stupid or mentally ill she is? Just want to shout out here as an anxious and depressed person, the vast majority of the mentally ill are not psychopathic murderers. Mental health absolutely pays a role in decision making, but except for super extremely rare cases, it doesn't turn someone into a murderer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago I bet her dad was a party clown who was hoping this would happen. Like where the fuck do you get all of these assumptions from? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's fine, but she still made a conscious decision to do it. If she was one year older, would that make any kind of difference? And let me be clear: mental illness can make some behaviors more understandable, but not murder– if the blame is put solely on mental illness, all that does is put more stigma on it. Not every shitty decision people make is because of "mental illness". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why only murder? Why not rape or assault or abuse or any number of different crimes deeply mentally ill people commit on the regular that ruin lives far more deeply than the death of a loved one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure you know what the word "reactionary" means if you think that my comments and opinions were "reactionary". The family can grieve, and my opinion has no bearing on the outcome of whatever happens. My point was, in the end, no matter what the reason, there needs to be consequences for someone who killed people, regardless of what the grieving parties think. I don't think that's particularly radical. It's a sad and awful situation al around. I can see why those poor families just want to move on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why only murder? Why not rape or assault or abuse or any number of different crimes deeply mentally ill people commit on the regular that ruin lives far more deeply than the death of a loved one? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] rambaroo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure you know what the word "reactionary" means if you think that my comments and opinions were "reactionary". The family can grieve, and my opinion has no bearing on the outcome of whatever happens. My point was, in the end, no matter what the reason, there needs to be consequences for someone who killed people, regardless of what the grieving parties think. I don't think that's particularly radical. It's a sad and awful situation al around. I can see why those poor families just want to move on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm not sure you know what the word "reactionary" means if you think that my comments and opinions were "reactionary". The family can grieve, and my opinion has no bearing on the outcome of whatever happens. My point was, in the end, no matter what the reason, there needs to be consequences for someone who killed people, regardless of what the grieving parties think. I don't think that's particularly radical. It's a sad and awful situation al around. I can see why those poor families just want to move on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DanTilDawn@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Did they not know how stupid or mentally ill she is? Just want to shout out here as an anxious and depressed person, the vast majority of the mentally ill are not psychopathic murderers. Mental health absolutely pays a role in decision making, but except for super extremely rare cases, it doesn't turn someone into a murderer. permalink fedilink source parent