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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Im not sure what JAQing is. I appreciate your response thanks permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) JAQing https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions first hit (on google ;) ) which has a good explanation. E: And I don't meant this post as a 'just fucking google it' or 'educate yourself' (well a little bit) but more to show there is more to this accusation of JAQing than just some way to shut you down. The method is used by bad faith actors a lot, so it is a pattern of behavior a lot of people react negatively too. So, assuming you are acting in good faith, it is a good way to learn why people are reacting to you like you are a bit of an bad faith actor. And if you are a bad faith actor, I only wasted a little bit of my time typing this out so nothing really lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I call that doing a "Tucker Carlson." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I had a weird brainfart a while back when I realized that Carlson reminds me of this guy. The bad faith 'bugs that think are offensive' debate guy from starship troopers. He even wears a bow tie! permalink fedilink source parent [–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago He does jaq off pretty constantly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Short for Just Asking Questions. Where people ask loaded questions that act as a veneer to their actual statements. If you want to accuse them of the fact they are talking shit, they'll say they're "just skeptical" and "asking questions" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just asking questions here, but do you think a wolverine would beat a mechabadger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 years ago yes, I’ve seen it permalink fedilink source parent [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) that wasnt my intention. It was simply a phrase I hadn’t heard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) that wasn't my intention Ironically, by saying that you're just doing The Thing again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 2 years ago I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless. Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn't exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn't JAQing off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 2 years ago Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) JAQing https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions first hit (on google ;) ) which has a good explanation. E: And I don't meant this post as a 'just fucking google it' or 'educate yourself' (well a little bit) but more to show there is more to this accusation of JAQing than just some way to shut you down. The method is used by bad faith actors a lot, so it is a pattern of behavior a lot of people react negatively too. So, assuming you are acting in good faith, it is a good way to learn why people are reacting to you like you are a bit of an bad faith actor. And if you are a bad faith actor, I only wasted a little bit of my time typing this out so nothing really lost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I call that doing a "Tucker Carlson." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I had a weird brainfart a while back when I realized that Carlson reminds me of this guy. The bad faith 'bugs that think are offensive' debate guy from starship troopers. He even wears a bow tie! permalink fedilink source parent [–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago He does jaq off pretty constantly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I call that doing a "Tucker Carlson." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I had a weird brainfart a while back when I realized that Carlson reminds me of this guy. The bad faith 'bugs that think are offensive' debate guy from starship troopers. He even wears a bow tie! permalink fedilink source parent [–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago He does jaq off pretty constantly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I had a weird brainfart a while back when I realized that Carlson reminds me of this guy. The bad faith 'bugs that think are offensive' debate guy from starship troopers. He even wears a bow tie! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago He does jaq off pretty constantly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Short for Just Asking Questions. Where people ask loaded questions that act as a veneer to their actual statements. If you want to accuse them of the fact they are talking shit, they'll say they're "just skeptical" and "asking questions" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just asking questions here, but do you think a wolverine would beat a mechabadger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 years ago yes, I’ve seen it permalink fedilink source parent [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) that wasnt my intention. It was simply a phrase I hadn’t heard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) that wasn't my intention Ironically, by saying that you're just doing The Thing again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 2 years ago I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless. Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn't exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn't JAQing off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 2 years ago Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just asking questions here, but do you think a wolverine would beat a mechabadger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 years ago yes, I’ve seen it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) that wasnt my intention. It was simply a phrase I hadn’t heard permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) that wasn't my intention Ironically, by saying that you're just doing The Thing again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 2 years ago I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless. Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn't exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn't JAQing off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 2 years ago Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) that wasn't my intention Ironically, by saying that you're just doing The Thing again permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 2 years ago I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless. Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn't exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn't JAQing off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 2 years ago Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷♀️ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 2 years ago I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless. Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 2 years ago I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless. Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn't exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn't JAQing off. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 2 years ago Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 2 years ago Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Agrivar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgerard@awful.systems [S] 9 points 2 years ago we really don't care permalink fedilink source parent