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[β] librecat@lemmy.basedcount.com 56 points 2 years ago (5 children) I love flatpak but if you aren't using the AUR on arch what's the point?! permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I love Arch but I hate installing and configuring it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago I cannot. Endeavour OS is great but itβs just arch. Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too. permalink fedilink source parent [β] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once... permalink fedilink source parent [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Darorad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) The installation script fails much too often, so you have to do it manually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun. permalink fedilink source parent [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago because i want to trigger arch users permalink fedilink source parent [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Other distros suck tho permalink fedilink source parent [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The Arch repos, being quick, rolling, not restricted legally or being upstream of some corpo distro like Fedora or OpenSUSE etc Idk ask Steam? permalink fedilink source parent [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There are people that choose flatpak for some apps and the AUR for other apps I heard from a friend π permalink fedilink source parent [+] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago (5 children) I just want new packages and Tumbleweed sucks, and don't even get me started on Fedora and their codec nonsense. Every time I tried Fedora I run into issues. You can't even use their packaged version of VLC cause they don't also package the correct version of ffmpeg. Fedora is a joke. Nobara even worse cause that one is outdated on top of it. Arch is the way and you are all wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agree on the Fedora problem, but the solution is pretty easy. # install the RPM packages, your system is auto detected, the packages take care of updating the repos sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm # enable cisco-openh264 to be sure sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264 # install ffmpeg with allowerase sudo dnf install ffmpeg --allowerasing # or, if you just want videos, without uninstalling anything sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld Thats basically it. On the Atomic variants, installing libavcodec-freeworld is just as easy, but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg. Or you just use uBlue where it is already done and default (this will also avoid any rpmfusion incompatibilities to happen on your device and on the server instead) Yes this is annoying, but you do that once and afterwards have a current release more stable than Arch, and an old-supported release that is even more stable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg There we go, that's probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That's too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don't count NixOS) And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an "it just works" distro like Mint, but it's SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org. discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems. I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Don't you ever talk to me or my wife's distro ever again permalink fedilink source parent [β] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago Ah, a man of culture permalink fedilink source parent [β] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thank software patents for the codec trouble, not Fedora / Red Hat. They just don't want to get their asses sued for free software Anyway I can use VLC and ffmpeg just fine with RPMFusion, idk what ur issue is, but judging by that you are all wrong i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) They just donβt want to get their asses sued for free software How come the other distros don't seem to care? Does it just come down to them being based in the US?. They can't be the only distro mainly based in the US, can they? VLC would not play ANYTHING. That was installed from RPMFusion in Fedora Kinoite 39. But even IF it were to work, this whole RPMFusion thing is ridiculous. If I had to install a bunch of codecs and drivers from the AUR I would say the same about Arch. That would absolutely kill the distro for me. i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. Hard to argue with that ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago How come the other distros don't seem to care? Obviously because they are SO MUCH MORE BADASS. No. https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why%20can%20ubuntu%20ship%20nonfree%20codecs permalink fedilink source parent [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What sucks exactly with TW? For me it is Arch in easy mode π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) π€ never had that issue on my TW machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn't like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying "Gnome sucks". It's obviously a matter of personal opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* I see For me, KDE sucks π€ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I love Arch but I hate installing and configuring it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago I cannot. Endeavour OS is great but itβs just arch. Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too. permalink fedilink source parent [β] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) I love Arch but I hate installing and configuring it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago I cannot. Endeavour OS is great but itβs just arch. Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too. permalink fedilink source parent [β] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago I cannot. Endeavour OS is great but itβs just arch. Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too. permalink fedilink source parent [β] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago I cannot. Endeavour OS is great but itβs just arch. Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too. permalink fedilink source parent [β] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago I cannot. Endeavour OS is great but itβs just arch. Gentoo with oddlama/gentoo-install is nice too. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] drambdaudi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago Personally I've been enjoying Garuda with sway. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Darorad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) The installation script fails much too often, so you have to do it manually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun. permalink fedilink source parent [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago because i want to trigger arch users permalink fedilink source parent [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Other distros suck tho permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Darorad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) The installation script fails much too often, so you have to do it manually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun. permalink fedilink source parent [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago because i want to trigger arch users permalink fedilink source parent [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Other distros suck tho permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) The installation script fails much too often, so you have to do it manually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun. permalink fedilink source parent [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago because i want to trigger arch users permalink fedilink source parent
[β] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) The installation script fails much too often, so you have to do it manually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun. permalink fedilink source parent [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago because i want to trigger arch users permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Other distros suck tho permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The Arch repos, being quick, rolling, not restricted legally or being upstream of some corpo distro like Fedora or OpenSUSE etc Idk ask Steam? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago There are people that choose flatpak for some apps and the AUR for other apps I heard from a friend π permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip -6 points 2 years ago (5 children) I just want new packages and Tumbleweed sucks, and don't even get me started on Fedora and their codec nonsense. Every time I tried Fedora I run into issues. You can't even use their packaged version of VLC cause they don't also package the correct version of ffmpeg. Fedora is a joke. Nobara even worse cause that one is outdated on top of it. Arch is the way and you are all wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agree on the Fedora problem, but the solution is pretty easy. # install the RPM packages, your system is auto detected, the packages take care of updating the repos sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm # enable cisco-openh264 to be sure sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264 # install ffmpeg with allowerase sudo dnf install ffmpeg --allowerasing # or, if you just want videos, without uninstalling anything sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld Thats basically it. On the Atomic variants, installing libavcodec-freeworld is just as easy, but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg. Or you just use uBlue where it is already done and default (this will also avoid any rpmfusion incompatibilities to happen on your device and on the server instead) Yes this is annoying, but you do that once and afterwards have a current release more stable than Arch, and an old-supported release that is even more stable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg There we go, that's probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That's too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don't count NixOS) And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an "it just works" distro like Mint, but it's SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org. discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems. I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Don't you ever talk to me or my wife's distro ever again permalink fedilink source parent [β] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago Ah, a man of culture permalink fedilink source parent [β] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thank software patents for the codec trouble, not Fedora / Red Hat. They just don't want to get their asses sued for free software Anyway I can use VLC and ffmpeg just fine with RPMFusion, idk what ur issue is, but judging by that you are all wrong i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) They just donβt want to get their asses sued for free software How come the other distros don't seem to care? Does it just come down to them being based in the US?. They can't be the only distro mainly based in the US, can they? VLC would not play ANYTHING. That was installed from RPMFusion in Fedora Kinoite 39. But even IF it were to work, this whole RPMFusion thing is ridiculous. If I had to install a bunch of codecs and drivers from the AUR I would say the same about Arch. That would absolutely kill the distro for me. i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. Hard to argue with that ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago How come the other distros don't seem to care? Obviously because they are SO MUCH MORE BADASS. No. https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why%20can%20ubuntu%20ship%20nonfree%20codecs permalink fedilink source parent [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What sucks exactly with TW? For me it is Arch in easy mode π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) π€ never had that issue on my TW machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn't like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying "Gnome sucks". It's obviously a matter of personal opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* I see For me, KDE sucks π€ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Agree on the Fedora problem, but the solution is pretty easy. # install the RPM packages, your system is auto detected, the packages take care of updating the repos sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm # enable cisco-openh264 to be sure sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264 # install ffmpeg with allowerase sudo dnf install ffmpeg --allowerasing # or, if you just want videos, without uninstalling anything sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld Thats basically it. On the Atomic variants, installing libavcodec-freeworld is just as easy, but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg. Or you just use uBlue where it is already done and default (this will also avoid any rpmfusion incompatibilities to happen on your device and on the server instead) Yes this is annoying, but you do that once and afterwards have a current release more stable than Arch, and an old-supported release that is even more stable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg There we go, that's probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That's too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don't count NixOS) And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an "it just works" distro like Mint, but it's SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org. discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems. I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg There we go, that's probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That's too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don't count NixOS) And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an "it just works" distro like Mint, but it's SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org. discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems. I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org. discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems. I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago Don't you ever talk to me or my wife's distro ever again permalink fedilink source parent
[β] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 2 years ago Ah, a man of culture permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thank software patents for the codec trouble, not Fedora / Red Hat. They just don't want to get their asses sued for free software Anyway I can use VLC and ffmpeg just fine with RPMFusion, idk what ur issue is, but judging by that you are all wrong i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) They just donβt want to get their asses sued for free software How come the other distros don't seem to care? Does it just come down to them being based in the US?. They can't be the only distro mainly based in the US, can they? VLC would not play ANYTHING. That was installed from RPMFusion in Fedora Kinoite 39. But even IF it were to work, this whole RPMFusion thing is ridiculous. If I had to install a bunch of codecs and drivers from the AUR I would say the same about Arch. That would absolutely kill the distro for me. i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. Hard to argue with that ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago How come the other distros don't seem to care? Obviously because they are SO MUCH MORE BADASS. No. https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why%20can%20ubuntu%20ship%20nonfree%20codecs permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) They just donβt want to get their asses sued for free software How come the other distros don't seem to care? Does it just come down to them being based in the US?. They can't be the only distro mainly based in the US, can they? VLC would not play ANYTHING. That was installed from RPMFusion in Fedora Kinoite 39. But even IF it were to work, this whole RPMFusion thing is ridiculous. If I had to install a bunch of codecs and drivers from the AUR I would say the same about Arch. That would absolutely kill the distro for me. i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you. Hard to argue with that ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago How come the other distros don't seem to care? Obviously because they are SO MUCH MORE BADASS. No. https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why%20can%20ubuntu%20ship%20nonfree%20codecs permalink fedilink source parent
[β] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social [S] 1 point 2 years ago How come the other distros don't seem to care? Obviously because they are SO MUCH MORE BADASS. No. https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why%20can%20ubuntu%20ship%20nonfree%20codecs permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What sucks exactly with TW? For me it is Arch in easy mode π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) π€ never had that issue on my TW machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn't like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying "Gnome sucks". It's obviously a matter of personal opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* I see For me, KDE sucks π€ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) π€ never had that issue on my TW machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) π€ never had that issue on my TW machines permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I havenβt use that PC. On my TW PC I donβt know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC.. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn't like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying "Gnome sucks". It's obviously a matter of personal opinion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* I see For me, KDE sucks π€ permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* I see For me, KDE sucks π€ permalink fedilink source parent